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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I think ultimately Rick Perry is a candidate who secures Haley Barbour's money with Sarah Palin's endorsement," he said."

Problem is that even IF this bit of wishful thinking came true, the widespread support for Sarah is NOT automatically transferable to Perry. Most of us will either go third party or stay home. No more Texas RINOs out of the Bush mold.

10 posted on 07/08/2011 6:01:36 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
.....No more Texas RINOs out of the Bush mold.

Then you have nothing to complain about.

Rick Perry’s Tenth Commandment Speaking of presidents: Rick Perry has a complicated relationship with the Bushes, which is to say that he’s hesitant to criticize them and they hate his guts. W. stayed well away from Perry’s gubernatorial-primary melee against Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, whose oatmeal-mushy Republicanism has a distinctly Bushian savor to it. But the mark of W. was all over the campaign against Perry. Former president George H. W. Bush endorsed Senator Hutchison, an unusual step for the habitually reserved retiree, who usually stays well removed from the dirty business of vote-grubbing, surveying the groundlings from the heights of his eminence. Bush père was joined in his support by former vice president Dick Cheney, who offered an endorsement and called Hutchison “the real deal.” Hutchison was further fortified by the Bush clan’s in-house Machiavelli, former secretary of state James Baker, who led the Florida recount fight in 2000 and remains their go-to fixer. W. mouthpiece Karen Hughes came out of the political woodwork to support the insurgency, along with W.’s secretary of education Margaret Spellings. Karl Rove advised Team Hutchison. The gang was all there: All this in a primary challenge to unseat an incumbent Republican governor with one of the most conservative — and most successful — records to be found: Que paso, Bushes?

Part of that was payback. Perry, generally circumlocutious on the subject of W., gave himself a little time off the leash during the 2008 Republican presidential primaries. Often caricatured as yet another snake-handling southern social conservative, Governor Perry backed thrice-married dress-wearing pro-choice lapsed Catholic Rudy Giuliani, on the theory that Rudy would be a badass commander-in-chief abroad and a reliable constitutionalist at home. Politics being politics, the Texan and the New Yorker met up in Iowa, where more than a few Hawkeye conservatives were already getting restive about out-of-control federal spending on the Republicans’ watch. Governor Perry let loose the observation that “George” — and the Bushies hate it when Perry calls him “George” in public — “has never been a fiscal conservative.” Never? “Wasn’t when he was in Texas . . . ’95, ’97, ’99, George Bush was spending money.” He also criticized Bush as being limp on immigration.

The truth hurts, but there’s more to the Bush-Perry friction than that. One longtime observer of Lone Star politics described the Bushes’ disdain of Perry as “visceral,” and it is not too terribly hard to see why. The guy that NPR executives and the New York Times and your average Subaru-driving Whole Foods shopper were afraid George W. Bush was? Rick Perry is that guy. George W. Bush was Midland by way of Kennebunkport. Rick Perry’s people are cotton farmers from Paint Creek, a West Texas town so tiny and remote that my Texan traveling-salesman father looked at me skeptically and suggested I had the name wrong when I asked him whether he knew where it was. (Governor Perry confesses that one of the politiciany things he’s done in office is insisting that the Texas highway atlas include Paint Creek, making him the hometown boy who literally put the town on the map.) Bush is a Yalie, Perry is an Aggie. Bush served in the Texas Air National Guard, and Perry was a captain in the U.S. Air Force, flying C-130s in the Middle East. Bush has a gentleman’s ranch, Perry has the red meat. The irony is that Perry, a tea-party favorite, personifies the hawkish new fiscal conservatism that has allowed the GOP to find its way out from under George W. Bush’s shadow, but he himself remains in the shade of that politically poisonous penumbra...."

12 posted on 07/08/2011 6:05:49 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Agreed.

Anyone who says Perry isn’t a Rove puppet is either naive or lying. I’ve ran two different Congressional races in Texas, in two different parts of the state. And no one gets elected without the say so of Karl Rove. They know no one wants another Bush, they have known this since 2005. All this “there is friction” is nonsense. The only friction is the money changing hands. Perry is getting in, because none of the other RINOs have any chance. They must find someone to fool the ignorant and desperate conservatives.


15 posted on 07/08/2011 6:19:45 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Most of us will either go third party or stay home. No more Texas RINOs out of the Bush mold.

I'm wondering how you presume to speak for all the Palin supporters in case she decides not to run.

I doubt a lot of people will "stay home" considering the country's survival as a republic might actually hang in the balance on this election.

Also, what "third party"? Has Ron Paul declared a third party run? Has Ross Perot returned?

28 posted on 07/08/2011 9:27:27 PM PDT by Texan
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Cincinatus' Wife
"I think ultimately Rick Perry is a candidate who secures Haley Barbour's money with Sarah Palin's endorsement," he said."

Problem is that even IF this bit of wishful thinking came true, the widespread support for Sarah is NOT automatically transferable to Perry. Most of us will either go third party or stay home. ..... Virginia Ridgerunner

Well, go right ahead and do your part to try to help reelect Obama the Commie, Virginia Ridgerunner.

If Perry is nominated, he will defeat Obama with the support of the majority of America because the majority of America has a hell of a lot more common sense than you do.

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Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 10:13:29 AM by Jim Robinson

“..... if Palin does not run but Perry does, he'd probably suck all the air out of the race. Either way, ..... Perry would all be excellent alternatives to Obama the commie. Anyone but RINO Romney the big government chief architect of CommieCare! …… Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 10:13:29 AM by Jim Robinson”

36 posted on 07/09/2011 9:36:51 PM PDT by Polybius
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