Posted on 07/08/2011 11:27:44 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
When the Casey Anthony verdict was announced I expected celebration from her defense team. I was more taken aback by the celebratory tone taken by pundits like Geraldo Rivera and Judge Andrew Napolitano. Their position is the same one that many liberals, anti-death penalty activists and libertarians are promoting now: this proves the system works.
But it doesn’t.
The American justice system is the greatest legal system in the world but like any other it is fallible. In the interest of liberty we err on the side of caution in criminal cases, but that means that in many cases we do not get justice. Talking heads on Fox were making the point that this was justice, that the verdict is a victory for the Constitution. This is wrong. Criminals getting off is a byproduct of a our love of liberty but it certainly isn’t an endorsement of our system.
Casey Anthony may or may not have killed her child but we know she committed several crimes afterward. She didn’t report her daughter missing for weeks. When police were finally involved she attempted to frame an innocent woman for murder. While her daughter was supposedly missing she was out partying. If not reporting your daughter missing for a month isn’t child abuse – or at least child neglect – nothing is.
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Little Caylee Anthony was abused, possibly raped according to her own mother who claimed George Anthony was a child molester. She disappeared and her mother did nothing. She died a horrible death and her family hired lawyers. Her body was desecrated, thrown into a ditch like so much garbage and her mother will likely walk free at sentencing. How is this an endorsement of American justice?
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I recognized exactly what was going to happen when I posted this.
People would read the headline, IGNORE the article, and come in “loaded for bear” with the same arguments they’ve had for days, thinking they were still arguing over whether “the state had proven its case.”
And NEVER HAVING A CLUE about what the article said.
I have to admit, I have been guilty of that myself from time to time. Shame on me.
When the coroner cannot identify the type of the homicide as in this case, there is no case.
The prosecutor screwed this up, they are to blame for this travesty of justice.
The system did work. The state is required to prove its case. Period. They didn’t. Period.
The state had to prove its case to dummies, a daunting task but I guess they were a member of your peers.
The author SPECIFICALLY said this: "Casey Anthony may or may not have killed her child but we know she committed several crimes afterward."
Are you drunk? Or do you just have an extremely short attention span?
I agree with your post btw, I was just commenting on the one part.
I understand that, but isn't it a crime against the nanny to attempt to frame her or does she only have civil remedies?
Did the State charge her with any of those other things? If not, it’d be hard for the jury to find her guilty.
Whether Casey did or didn't cannot be PROVED.
The prosecutors should have charged her with crimes that they could prove.
Just like when they couldn't prove Al Capone was a racketeer, but they could prove tax evasion.
When the coroner cannot identify the type of the homicide as in this case, there is no case.
Not true and illogical. John Wayne Gacey was convicted of murder when several of his victims skeletons were unearthed from his basement. The coroner couldn’t identify the cause of death on those victims either. There was a person convicted of murder in Boston a few years back that had no body.
The coroner testified that she ruled the child's death a homicide....because the child's remains were tossed and hidden in a swamp, because the child was not reported missing, because the child had 3 stripes of duck tape holding the jaw bone on the skull in precise anatomical placement, those 3 small strips were attached to a larger one that wound around the head.
Add that to the months long disappearance of the child's mother, lying about the child being alive, lying about a kidnapping, the mother was the last one to be seen with the child, her car truck with decomposition smells and fluid, and odor of chloroform, and the deleted computer history of “how to make chloroform” on the dates when no one but the mother was at home.
Good grief...scary really....is it any wonder why Obama was elected with such idiots in this country.
There was no nanny that was a lie. Although a person with that name is suing Casey Anthony.
If that was the case, how come the State could not even prove a cause of death?
Surely, in order to ascertain that someone was murdered, you would have to know what the person died of?
In the absence of proof, you can't prove murder, much less who did it.
The standard is not one of what we suspect, no matter how strongly, but proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
If the child might have died other than from the malicious actions of another person, there is the reason for doubt. It was not proven otherwise.
What I think happened is irrelevant. It is a question of what can be proven.
Tamper with that standard at all our peril.
Totally different cases and States.
I am also going by what the juror had to say.
Why is this case such an outrage ?
It makes no logical sense to be outraged and whine about how terrible it is when - thousands of murderers are either not prosecuted or tried and acquitted every year.
Thousands - 18,361 homicides in 2007 alone. Were there 18,361 soap-opera cases that were flogged by TV “lawyers” for YEARS ? This is only one case, and since she died there have been probably 50,000 homicides. Have there been 50,000 prosecutions and convictions of those murders ?
But we are outraged because we see a cute little victim.
Well, for children under the age of 5, in 2007, there were 750 homIcides in 2007 alone. 750 HOMICIDES OF CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 5 IN ONE YEAR - it’s somewhere around that number EVERY year.
Where are all the trials for their murderers ? Where are the convictions ? Where are all the convictions for murder for hundreds of children murdered every year ?
It makes no sense to be all so outraged against the one trial that has dominated the news for three years and view this one verdict has evidence that at this particular point in time our judicial system has been destroyed by this case because we didn’t see the conviction we wanted to see - and yet there are hundreds of non-convictions like this every year. If non-conviction is a problem - WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM HUNDREDS OF TIMES EVERY YEAR - THIS IS NOTHING NEW.
Many Americans obviously have a fascination with Caylee Anthony, the poor cute little girl who they feel without a doubt was murdered and they don’t need a silly thing like a trial to prove who did it. This type of talk IS provocative and creates a lot of danger for innocent people. If we believe that Casey is the murderer, bear in mind that all this outrage is resulting in death threats to her parents: did all 3 kill Caylee ? Are we that sure of that as well ?
Another point to ponder: during the year 2007, when 750 children under the age of 5 were murdered, here are the statistics for accidental deaths for children under 5:
675 Motor-vehicle accidents
20 Other land transport accidents
13 Other and undspecified transport accidents
60 Falls
19 Accidental discharge of firearms
515 Accidental drowning and submersion
239 Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames
53 Accidental poisoning and exposure to noxious substances
1,279 Other and unspecified nontransport accidents
2,873 Total accidental deaths
A 2 year old child was murdered.
If that was the case, how come the State could not even prove a cause of death?
Surely, in order to ascertain that someone was murdered, you would have to know what the person died of?
In the absence of proof, you can’t prove murder, much less who did it.
The standard is not one of what we suspect, no matter how strongly, but proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
If the child might have died other than from the malicious actions of another person, there is the reason for doubt. It was not proven otherwise.
What I think happened is irrelevant. It is a question of what can be proven.
Tamper with that standard at all our peril.
I think you are missing the point here. It wasn’t proven to dummies. People with brains know she is guilty and the prosecuter proved it.
A 2 year old child was murdered.
If that was the case, how come the State could not even prove a cause of death?
Surely, in order to ascertain that someone was murdered, you would have to know what the person died of?
In the absence of proof, you can’t prove murder, much less who did it.
The standard is not one of what we suspect, no matter how strongly, but proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
If the child might have died other than from the malicious actions of another person, there is the reason for doubt. It was not proven otherwise.
What I think happened is irrelevant. It is a question of what can be proven.
Tamper with that standard at all our peril.
I think you are missing the point here. It wasn’t proven to dummies. People with brains know she is guilty and the prosecuter proved it.
>>If not, you would be revealed as unwise in the ways of FReeperdom.
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Good post...must read for those here who did not follow the trial
Likewise...folks here need to listen to juror Ford and her nutty reasoning
Where the prosecution failed was in jury selection..similar to how they lost OJ sans race nullification
I don’t blame the system except for the Griffin rule and that state allows innuendo designed to confuse juries that Federal courts do not allow
Lucky for her she was not on federal land
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