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LIVE THREAD: The Final Countdown-STS-135
NASA ^ | 7/7/11 | NASA

Posted on 07/07/2011 9:23:54 AM PDT by hoagy62

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To: raygun

Thank the Lord, not a flaw to be seen.

I was screaming “GO! GO! GO!” at the screen....scared my daughter.

Shuttle has turned “heads up” and is proceeding nominally.


61 posted on 07/08/2011 8:51:20 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Help stamp out crack-pull up your pants.)
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<60 sec to MECO


62 posted on 07/08/2011 8:52:24 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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external tank sep


63 posted on 07/08/2011 8:53:39 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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ET Sep....Atlantis is in space...one last time.


64 posted on 07/08/2011 8:54:07 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Help stamp out crack-pull up your pants.)
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To: jpsb

hey jpsb, long time no-see.

You still down there in Galveston? Hows the bar goin’?


65 posted on 07/08/2011 9:01:20 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: raygun
Do better? Aggreed but rather then giving up on the idea of a Space Shuttle we should be improving what we have and designing a better SS using lessons learned with this one.

I am happy that we at least got one more repair mission to the Hubble, no other system is capable of retrieval or repair. We are going to miss her. I wonder what the USAF has? Hard to believe (dido SR-71) that the nation would give up this capability if there was no replacement.

66 posted on 07/08/2011 9:02:20 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: raygun

Hello, lol, yes and it’s still there and still not making much $$$$. Oh well, one of these days :)


67 posted on 07/08/2011 9:03:50 AM PDT by jpsb
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I agree that its an end of an era. And I question the wisdom of ending the program w/out a viable replacement.

That being said, if there’s money to be made, I’d like to see commercial step up to the plate now.

I’m a capitalist. This shouldn’t be some business plan akin to that of the underwear gnomes.


68 posted on 07/08/2011 9:05:58 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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I think basic R&D is within the realm of gov. There would be no private rockets without the R&D done by gov in post the WW2 world. I like the idea of repair and retrieve via a Space Shuttle and I have no problem with gov doing the R&D necessary to make it happen. But given the state of the economy and the debt incurred by gov the Shuttle is just not affordable. Very sad, but job one now is to get spending under control and the economy growing again.
69 posted on 07/08/2011 9:14:57 AM PDT by jpsb
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The problem with the space shuttle is that its a product of the admirals not knowing what the purpose for their ships was supposed to be. The designers and engineers created something based on the moving goal-post requirements definitions presented every couple years.

The problem began in the very early 70’s and festered until the Challenger disaster. At that point the mission statement took a radical departure leaving a mouse designed by committee that weighed 10 tons, long trunk, huge flappy ears and two huge ivory tusks.


70 posted on 07/08/2011 9:38:36 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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post launch new-conference


71 posted on 07/08/2011 10:31:13 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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The newly unemployed shuttle launch control center team spent a bit of time dithering about in the launch facilities, taking pictures, prior to shutin’ ‘er down, turning the lights off and filing out and lockin the doors behind ‘em. They all signed the “out of business” plaque they hung on the knob.


72 posted on 07/08/2011 10:49:02 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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They’re planning on 39b launch facilities refurb for multi-user use; for rent sign hung out at Kennedy Space Ctr.


73 posted on 07/08/2011 11:00:30 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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Commercial endeavors will NOT be able to accomplish what the shuttle did. Focus will now be exclusively on puddle jumpers to ISS and that's it. You can't touch this. Woomp. There it is.
74 posted on 07/08/2011 11:03:30 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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Next 9 years will focus on R & D for Orion capsule and heavy lift launch vehicle. The accum’d knowledge base over the last 30 years will now be avail for commercial use.

Shuttle lauch tech experts will solicit their resumes to commercial organizations to ply their expertice for commercial space flight.

Video rolling of all the launch crew white room dudes with signs: have resume will travel. Not quite “will work for food” as the guys sitting on the side of the intersections, but the sentiment is there.


75 posted on 07/08/2011 11:23:04 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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"based on the moving goal-post requirements"

Well this is certainly true and the same thing happened with the space station! Well in a few days the Shuttle will be no more, sadly.

76 posted on 07/08/2011 11:23:38 AM PDT by jpsb
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