Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear Most

Human Events ^ | 07/06/2011 | Merrill Matthews

[SpringtoLiberty]

9/10

excellent

[Ditter]

There is one little hitch in your theory. Texas law forbids Perry from stopping an execution for longer than 3 days. He can give a 3 day extension but that is all. I remember this from when Bush was gov and people were ragging on him to stop an execution. I wish he would come out and say this to shut people up.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Can you ever have a discussion without using personal insults? (Stupid) (PDS) (ETC,) (Which you use regularly and freely)

Yet you scream to high heaven when someone comes up with one of their own. Why is it that your group gets away with it while the rest have to be extremely careful with what they say, or how they say it?

For the most part, I avoid such personal insults. If you are so offended by my use of a certain word, then you might do the same and drop the “PDS” label, or “stupid” comments. The forum would be much better off without all the insults being so freely inflicted. (From all sides.)

[Lakeshark]

You're not going to admit your own mistake and move on are you?

For the most part, I avoid such personal insults

*rolling eyes*

Denial, not just a river in Egypt.

[Old Retired Army Guy]

You had better hope Perry gets in. De Mint isn’t going to run. Cain doesn’t have a chance and while I like Bachmann, I don’t think she could beat Obama which is the ultimate goal.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

There are pros and cons for most every present or past candidate.

Considering what the country faces, Perry is one of the hardest working Governors in the country and has done an admirably great job as Governor of Texas. (Considering the complexity of the state.)

Texas is like no other state. It is extremely large in land area as well as population. Considering the vast and diverse industrial/business complex, for a governor to advance the state to the top in most all categories of growth, that says a lot about that governor.

He puts GW Bush to shame in comparison.

[Old Retired Army Guy]

What was that “Nazis” comment all about? I wasn’t being critical of her. All I was trying to emphasize was that Palin is not going to run and would most likely endorse Perry if he gets in.

[shield]

To use a football analogy—I mean, we're talking about Texas—it's not who hands you the football and it's not where the ball is handed to you, it's what you do with the ball after you have it.

Rick Perry took the ball from Bush and scored an economic touchdown for Texas. Obama took the ball from Bush and fumbled it—repeatedly—giving the other team a chance to score a touchdown.

Which brings us to the Obama vs. Perry records on the economy. What has happened to some of the key indicators of economic well-being since Obama has been in charge (roughly January of 2009 to June 2011)?

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Alright, I agree,

I made a mistake in using the term. You will not hear it ever again from me on this forum. I also apologize to you if you took offense.

Now, the real challenge lies in your court. Let's both move on, and that means that you refrain from any and all personal attacks and discuss things on a mutual level of respect. (To all members of this forum)

Hopefully that won't be too hard a task for you.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

There was never the word “Nazi” ever implied. That term was interjected into the interpretation.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

There’s another guy on this thread who is telling us that people who don’t support Perry want ‘aryan’ candidates. Presumably he means Palin, since he’s a virulent Anti-Palin poster who does nothing around here but wait for Palin threads to troll on.

Indeed, you weren’t being critical of her. You were being critical of someone who would be so foolish as to think she might get into this race. This is a new meme that is being established now: anyone who supports Palin is a crazed lunatic, because there’s just no way she’s running.

So, I don’t like what you did. I don’t agree with your premise. But at least you didn’t call people Nazis like the other guy.

[Lakeshark]

Cool. I'm not particularly anti-Perry, so I didn't take it personally. I'm glad you can see it wasn't helping your cause.

*Moving on*

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

[trying to emphasize was that Palin is not going to run and would most likely endorse Perry if he gets in.]

It sounds like Perry is not yet in because he made a commitment to get his Texas agenda finished fist. One has to admit, a man this dedicated and who holds such a high level of honor and duty is rare.

It sounds like he will be free to join in sometime in August. Hopefully, he will.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

If you want to say that it wasn’t explicitly stated, that’s a factual statement. However, to say it wasn’t implied is utter nonsense.

But, since you’re still here: you made the statement that people who don’t support Perry are supporting ‘aryan’ candidates. Who are the ‘aryan’ candidates and what makes them ‘aryan’? What are you insinuating the motives are for FReepers to be supporting ‘aryan’ candidates?

[warchild9]

The Black messiah has this one wrapped up.

Rick Perry will win in 2016, regardless of who is running.

Watch where the Big Money places its bribes.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

One has to admit, a man this dedicated and who holds such a high level of honor and duty is rare.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Hi PSYCHO-FREEP. Some history for those who think Karl Rove is Rick Perry's brain-trust -- trust me that idea is laughable.

["Perry was part of the "Pit Bulls", a group of Appropriations members who sat on the lower dais in the committee room (or "pit") who pushed for austere [Texas] state budgets during the 1980s."] Source

Karl Rove claims Rick Perry as his candidate in Perry's FIRST campaign for the Texas Agriculture Commission. [From what I’ve found this was their only collaboration]

Perry was a Texas Democrat (not a liberal Democrat). He switched to the Republican Party in 1989. In 1990 Perry won the election (against Jim Hightower) to head the Agricultural Committee (a post Perry was well suited for as having come from a cotton farming family -- raised and worked the land -- and had a degree in Animal Science from Texas A&M). He was reelected in 1994 to that office in a landslide (62%). He did not seek reelection for a 3rd term and ran for Lt. Gov of Texas (1998), winning in a 3 way race, in a hard fought campaign against John Sharp (D).

["Perry thus became the state's first Republican lieutenant governor since Reconstruction, taking office on January 19, 1999 until his ascension to the governorship on December 21, 2000 upon the resignation of then-Governor George W. Bush."] Source

In that 1998 campaign year, the G.W. Bush camp (which included Karl Rove) was campaigning for W's reelection for Texas Gov (1st elected in 1994) and was at odds with Rick Perry's hard nosed campaign against John Sharp for Lt. Gov. Karl Rove told Perry to soft peddle to lift Bush's numbers in minority groups, Perry refused. Bush won reelection as Texas Governor. Perry won office as Lt. Gov. (arguably a stronger office than TX governor).

["Bush won by 1.4 million votes, Perry by fewer than 70,000. There were harsh words afterward; Rove and Dave Carney, a top Perry strategist, now are bitter foes."] Source

Then there was this in the TX Monthly about the 2010 governor's race:

October 2009: “....It would not be surprising to find that Karl Rove had a hand in this somewhere. The Bushies are definitely in the Hutchison camp, and there is no love lost between them and the Perry camp. The tension (according to Perry team members whom I interviewed on this subject last year) dates all the way back to Perry’s race for lieutenant governor in 1998, when Rove insisted that Perry stick with a positive message even while he was being pounded by John Sharp. Meanwhile, in the view of the Perry camp, Rove was trying to turn out Hispanic Democrats who would vote for Bush, even though that meant they were likely to switch back to the D column to vote for Sharp. The Perry team decided that they had to fight back, Rove or no Rove, and they went rogue, going after Sharp hard. It worked.

...If that animosity weren’t enough, after Bush was named the winner in December 2000, Perry was insistent that the president-elect vacate the governor’s mansion so that Perry could move in, notwithstanding that Bush wanted to stay a day or two longer before leaving for Washington. I heard that firsthand from the Bushies at the time....” -- Texas Monthly

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Basically, in the 2010 GOP primary in TX for the governor's office, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutichison was hoping to come home to Texas as Governor. Her election was being backed by the Bush family and all their power players were lined up against Gov. Rick Perry, with Karl Rove serving as Sen Hutchison's adviser against Perry. Source

Rick Perry won a 3rd term as Governor of Texas in 2010.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Thanks for the correspondence as well FRiend. Things sometimes get rather raw around here don't they? LOL!

It's time for a team effort here, instead of “Us vs. Them”.

We have to keep our eye on the prize and we won't do that by ripping each others hearts out. (Again, from both sides)

[CA Conservative]

...and by the way, a “true Social Conservative” doesn’t require pre-teen girls to get vaccinated so that they have unrestrained sex while in middle school and high school.

I haven't made up my mind about Perry, and I think the way he handled the Gardasil issue was a mistake. But if that is the worst you can say about him, I've got to say that he looks pretty good...

[dagogo redux]

Please don’t throw me in that briar patch!