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To: PieterCasparzen

So your post lays out some good logic for not doing drugs except for alcohol which seems to you to be an excellent way to relax or enjoy food and of course if it causes you to have hallucinations you should quit.

Now layout the case as to why I should be taxed and live in a police state to keep other people from using those drugs (except alcohol which you endorse)? Explain to me why people shouldn’t be allowed to do as they please so long as it doesn’t hurt you.

By your own post you admit the war on drugs has failed in your drug ridden neighborhood. So give up your money and freedoms in your neighborhood but leave mine out of it. We do not need your laws.

Great example using bestiality and I guess you believe if it were not illegal we would have a big increase in animal lovers? Where do you live?


50 posted on 07/05/2011 12:25:26 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Now layout the case as to why I should be taxed

Sorry, we all need to pay taxes. Overtaxation is only required when there is overspending on the part of the government.

and live in a police state to keep other people from using those drugs (except alcohol which you endorse)? Explain to me why people shouldn’t be allowed to do as they please so long as it doesn’t hurt you.

I live in what appears to be a very nice suburban community as one drives through. But delving in a little closer, one finds drug use not all that uncommon amongst children who atten the local public schools. Now I'll go real slowly: anyone who allows their child to socialize with children in public schools is exposing their children to the drug and partying culture, which can very negatively impact their children. So even drugs done in my neighbor's lovely mansion have an affect on the rest of the neighborhood, since we live in a society where people interact. At the very least, they INVITE EACH OTHER TO PARTIES. Now this is the tough part to understand: it is much more difficult to dissuade my teenager from attending a party where LEGAL drugs are being offered than one where ILLEGAL drugs are being offered, as junior will say - BUT IT'S LEGAL, DAD.

Very affluent, otherwise beautiful towns have a lot of drug abuse, just the same as ghettos and everything in between. Oftentimes people think that drug abuse is fine and that they can manage their life. Some people have an incredibly high tolerance for lengthy periods of time before their health fails. All the while it looks to the observer like they are coping fine, it leaves others thinking that they can keep up with this person's partying. If one abuses drugs inside their home and no one ever hears or suspects anything about it in anything they say or do, theoretically they would have no influence on anyone else. I think if you reconsider all the possible effects, though, you may begin to question whether this "zero-effect" is truly the case.

In terms of alcoholic drinks, I'm not rooting for their acceptance; they've been a part of society for thousands of years. As our Lord Jesus Christ turned water into wine for people to drink at a wedding, as a Christian I reason that it is acceptable for us to partake of wine, since our Lord would have certainly admonished us to abstain from wine if that were His intention. There are clear Scriptural admonitions to avoid drunkenness, however, and there is a very clear and straightforward doctrinal reasoning behind the avoidance of inebriation through the use of any substance which is fundamental to the theology presented in the New Testament.
54 posted on 07/05/2011 1:45:04 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (It's not difficult.)
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