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Microsoft admits Patriot Act can access EU-based cloud data
ZDNet ^ | 6/29/11 | Zack Whittacker

Posted on 07/04/2011 5:15:36 AM PDT by markomalley

LONDON — At the Office 365 launch, Gordon Frazer, managing director of Microsoft UK, gave the first admission that cloud data — regardless of where it is in the world — is not protected against the USA PATRIOT Act.

It was honestly music to my ears. After a year of researching the Patriot Act’s breadth and ability to access data held within protected EU boundaries, Microsoft finally and openly admitted it.

The question put forward:

“Can Microsoft guarantee that EU-stored data, held in EU based datacenters, will not leave the European Economic Area under any circumstances — even under a request by the Patriot Act?”

Frazer explained that, as Microsoft is a U.S.-headquartered company, it has to comply with local laws (the United States, as well as any other location where one of its subsidiary companies is based).

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: clouddata; microsoft; microsoftclouddata; patriotact

1 posted on 07/04/2011 5:15:37 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

no worries. national sovereignty is a thing of the past, like puberty and braces. things like “the cloud” make it so.


2 posted on 07/04/2011 5:25:11 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Basically....they will have to create a EU-cloud...and a Russia-cloud...and a Chinese-cloud....and a Saudi-cloud. That’s the only way to get around the Patriotic Act. And eventually...the Muslim radical guys will even get their cloud.


3 posted on 07/04/2011 5:28:37 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: the invisib1e hand

New World Order


4 posted on 07/04/2011 5:29:17 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: markomalley

All the reason why I will not being going to the Cloud that Apple has been pushing. Just think they want you to put all your personal data on their Server! Oh yeah I know it’s just pictures and videos now. Things that don’t really matter, but that is just to get you (the consumers) use to it. You can bet without a doubt they will want everyone to send their personal data to the Server. Sorry NOT going to do it!

1) I know the government can still get your data, but it’s a lot harder now with flash drives, etc... This is WHY they want the cloud.

2) What if someone abuses, hacks your data in the cloud? Another great reason not to use it. All your info is sitting out their waiting to be hacked! Unlike on your computer where you can shut it down, go offline and/or put it on your external flash drive. The best security in the info-space is to decentralize period. That way it’s a lot harder for hackers/government to look into your personal info. If you centralize everything, then it makes it easier to be exposed. This is kind of like the government structure. You decentralize it to put more power in the people’s hands. Even the military does not centralize all their power. They spread it out because they know they are vulnerable if all at one spot.

3) What if a virus gets in the cloud? Then everybody’s data is toast.

Sorry folks but the Cloud is a joke. I will not go. Let it go the way of Apple’s failed idea of with mail for your phone. They had their own seperate brand for $99 a year. Guess what? Hardly anyone used it and it’s now gone and merged. It’s a horrible idea! Anyone in the IT security world already knows this but of course now they are being conditioned that it’s a great idea because Apple, Microsoft and the government is doing it.

This is just more of the control freaks in government trying to away more of our freedoms. Remember whenever the government tries to sell you something that is a great idea (like Universal Healthcare, Social Security, Medicare) then you know it’s a bad idea. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. I’m not trading my freedom for security from Big Brother. No way!

History over and over again tells us what happens when government gets too big. Today is the 4th of July. A great day to not only celebrate our independence but to remind all of us of the dangers of a tyrannical government. Thank God our Founding Fathers were well aware of this.


5 posted on 07/04/2011 5:35:39 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: pepsionice
Basically....they will have to create a EU-cloud...and a Russia-cloud...and a Chinese-cloud....and a Saudi-cloud. That’s the only way to get around the Patriotic Act. And eventually...the Muslim radical guys will even get their cloud

That's pretty much how Orwell saw. it.

Some see it this way:

When the pragmatic essence of citizenship is stripped down to the tax authority/taxpayer relationship, the physical definition of nationhood ceases to be relevant.

6 posted on 07/04/2011 5:39:25 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters)
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To: markomalley

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,

Once data leaves your computer, it becomes fair game...that is reality. Let’s just see how popular The Cloud now becomes.


7 posted on 07/04/2011 5:44:19 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: BobL

I operate a server for friends and relatives. Two applications and both are on a 3 year old laptop. One is for instant messaging and the other is sort of a Facebook-lite. Both offer encryption. I wouldn’t put anything sensitive on a cloud server.


8 posted on 07/04/2011 6:04:05 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: markomalley

Yet another reason to host outside of the US and to use encrypted file systems when doing so.


9 posted on 07/04/2011 8:13:12 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: pepsionice
How about an ort cloud?
10 posted on 07/04/2011 8:48:35 AM PDT by Sawdring
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