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To: Spunky; no dems; sourcery
To no dems: .... Obviously you didn't read this. You are WRONG!

A Supreme Court ruling dating back to 1830, the fact that Chester A. Arthur was President of the United States and the fact that Spiro Agnew was Vice President of the United States say no dems is correct.

See Post 13.

"The Rule of Law" is not "The Rule of Speculative Articles on the Internet".


18 posted on 07/03/2011 9:13:44 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
Minor vs. Hapersett supercedes any Supreme Court ruling from 1830.

The Presidency of Chester Arthur sets no precedents, neither de jure nor de facto. Without a court decision, there is no legal precedent. Without the public and Congress knowingly allowing Arthur to serve in spite of the fact his father was a British subject, there is no de facto precedent, either. And we know beyond any reasonable doubt that neither the public nor Congress knew about Arthur's father not being a citizen, because of an article published in The American Law Review in 1884, while Arthur was President.

The article was written by George D. Collins, Esq. Attorney Collins was the Secretary of the California Bar Association. His name was recognized nationally for cases in the federal courts and moreso due to his regular publishing of articles via The American Law review. The article was entitled "ARE PERSONS BORN IN THE UNITED STATES IPSO FACTO CITIZENS THEREOF?", and was an in depth discussion and review of the legalities of US citizenship.

The article makes a compelling case that "natural born citizen" means exactly what de Vattel meant by "les naturels, ou indigenes": persons born on the soil of a nation both of whose parents were citizens of that same nation. But here's the point: There is no way the article could have been written, or published by the American Law Review, while the current sitting President is shown by the article to clearly fail the Constitutional requirement of being a natural born citizen, unless it was not generally known that such was the case. No way in Dante's Inferno could any such thing have happened, especially not in 1884!

20 posted on 07/03/2011 9:27:43 PM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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