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Conservative GOP primary voters likely to like Perry's positions
Star-Telegram ^ | July 2, 2011 | Dave Montgomery

Posted on 07/02/2011 11:39:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: zerosix

Gardasil was recommended. However parents could ALWAYS opt out of any immunization. Public Health reasons for giving immunizations are to give vaccines early to prevent disease. In this case, HPV causes ovarian cancer. You want this particular vaccine before a girl becomes sexually active. We teach our girls not to engage in sexual activity at young ages, but they don’t always listen. By the time you have symptoms from ovarian cancer, it is usually to late for treatment. Again, parents may OPT OUT of vaccinations for a variety of reasons.


101 posted on 07/02/2011 9:07:03 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: truthfreedom

This junk has likely been circulated by liberal Democrats, scared that Rick Perry could beat Obama. Believe me he could. Remember, that Democrats will do ANYTHING to get Obama re-elected. Grey Eagle


102 posted on 07/02/2011 9:09:40 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Diogenesis; Cincinatus' Wife
What are Perry’s present positions on:
1. gardasil and any drug FORCED upon the people
2. kickbacks to politicians for #1

So you think that Perry did all of that just for a measly $6000 in re-election campaign funds from Merck. How do you think that went down? Perry is out minding his business jogging along a trail one morning and a stranger in a suit comes up alongside and slips an envelope containing six grand into his jogging shorts? Perry stops, looks at the money and the note inside and then begins jeopardizing his political career in mandating a controversial drug upon half the school population? Are you really that gullible and easily led to believe the most insipid conspiracy theories?

Merck came up with a drug that costs $120/shot that was aimed primarily at taking preventive measures against a virus that is believed to promote cervical cancer that comes up in sexually promiscuous women.

Think about that.

Cervical cancer isn't cheap to cure, and the stereotypes are true in Texas. Minority teens are sexually promiscuous, reckless in their behavior, least likely to take even the most primitive precautions, would never in hell pay for any medical treatment as a result of their sin, and sure as hell wouldn't take money that could be spent on bling, drugs and lottery tickets to get a shot of Gardasil.

Texas is also plagued by a huge number of children of illegal immigrants, plus the usual flotsam and jetsam of society - many parent who view school as a great day care system that feeds and amuses their spawn. Without a mandate, these feral children wouldn't get the vaccination. The Texas legislature agreed with Perry that the state ought to cover the costs of the vaccine, but they disagreed with the mandate that all school attending females are required to have the medication particularly because of the stigma attached to it. If the vaccine were for the flu, or against SARS, people would be lining up to get the shot and the population would be demanding the shots be required and tax-payer underwritten, but because the medication is targeted towards sluts and whores, parents choked on the thought that the State considered their little chaste and virginal Miss Americas to be nothing less than Mary the mother of Jesus, and thus they rebelled.

Nearly everyone except kooks have zero problems with the government mandating a host of other required vaccines, but all of a sudden Obama and Perry are fully indistinguishable because the mandated vaccine in this case was a practical good but a political bomb.

So what does one do? Much of the population in Texas is fully irresponsible, highly dependent on every service imaginable, and have tramps and whores as offspring. Some of those kids will come down with the cancer and they will demand free treatment and they will get it. Why should I as the tax payer have to underwrite the consequences of their sin? As long as these libertine reprobates are going to do things that hurt the economy and themselves, why shouldn't the taxpayers have a say in trying to mitigate future costs?

The decision that Perry made was politically stupid, and I seriously doubt it was a lonesome decision. Perry has staff, lots of staff, and that phone to the governor's office rings a lot by companies other than Merck. I don't believe that Perry saw an article in some government trade magazine and then decided to launch into some frenzied campaign to make Merck fabulously rich in exchange for a mere $6000 in campaign money. Merck had to go through a gauntlet of staffers, surely lawyers and political hacks were involved up to the issuance of the executive order.

I notice that you failed to mention that Perry did not attempt to stop the veto from the Legislature. The good intentions under heavy lobbying bit him in the butt and he had the good sense to call off the mandate rather than do what many other politicians do and that is find another covert way to force their will upon the public.

So now Texas, like all of the other states are going to have to foot the bills for women who didn't get the Gardasil but did get preventable cervical cancer. You get to make an ass out of yourself and criticize a man who has more honor than you ever will. Perry was willing to do something about it. You cower and throw rocks.

3. deaths and tumors resulting from #1

Your hysterical hyperbole is probably due to the fact that you are gullible to whatever foolishness the kooks tell you, along with the inability to comprehend risk management or how to view things in perspective. The Center for Disease Control has a mature response to your wild claims.

103 posted on 07/02/2011 9:50:33 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: Grey Eagle

That is true. People should not take the bait.


104 posted on 07/02/2011 9:59:06 PM PDT by JaneNC (es.)
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To: Grey Eagle

I think I agree Perry could beat Obama, even with his flaws he is a thousand times better then Obama and they know it.


105 posted on 07/02/2011 10:15:56 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Indeed he is.


106 posted on 07/02/2011 10:26:23 PM PDT by JaneNC (es.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, they will love his support of TARP/Obamanomics.


107 posted on 07/03/2011 2:57:16 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: The Theophilus

Great post.

I’ll be referencing it.

Thanks.


108 posted on 07/03/2011 5:00:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My family was just here from Texas and said Perry has destroyed the education system in Texas. Can you give me some feedback on what they are talking about?
My brother is a lib so I usually ignore what he says, but his wife is a conservative and she agreed. My brother also said that the Texas governor has little power (?), not sure what he is talking about as it does not sound so with the posts I am reading.


109 posted on 07/03/2011 5:51:46 AM PDT by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: The Theophilus
To post #103:

1. "for a measly $6000 in re-election campaign funds from Merck".
So you think it should have been more?
RINO SELL OUT TO BIG PHARMA. SIGN OF THE RINO. NO SALE.

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2."Merck came up with a drug that costs $120/shot that was aimed primarily
at taking preventive measures against a virus that is
believed to promote cervical cancer that comes up in sexually promiscuous women.
"
Think about that.

To that, the logical response is:
Why is RINO Perry demanding chaste young girls in elementary school
be sexually promiscuous. Just because he is a RINO?
RINO SELL OUT TO ROMNEY and NEW YORK TIMES AGENDA.
SIGN OF THE RINO. NO SALE.

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3. " ....deaths and tumors resulting from #1" Your hysterical hyperbole is probably
due to the fact that you are gullible to whatever foolishness the kooks tell you,
along with the inability to comprehend risk management or how to
things in perspective.
"

The fact is that there HAVE been deaths. Many.
And many of them were before it was tested adequately.

The fact is that there are both accumulated risks of
tumors both from the vaccine and its change upon the virus
and its change upon other (nosocomial) viruses.

TYPICAL RINO LACK OF JUDGMENT
SIGN OF THE RINO. NO SALE.

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In summary, at the end of the day,
the fact is that Gardasil appears to not have been adequately and fully tested on children,
and that the RINO Perry got $6000 to sell out the children of Texas
as the first 'guinea pigs'.



110 posted on 07/03/2011 5:59:01 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Every conservative on this forum who supports Perry for President will be sorely disappointed if they get what they’re asking for.

You’re comparing Perry to Obama instead of, say, Reagan.

This son of a bitch is no Reagan, but he’s a whole lot like Bush, maybe even worse.

Let me know how that turns out for you.


111 posted on 07/03/2011 7:13:36 AM PDT by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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To: ohiogrammy

When it is said that TX has a “weak” governorship, it means the governor can’t remove another governor’s appointees to state boards and commissions, can’t remove his own appointees to such boards without 2/3 of the state Senate in agreement, and can be checkmated by the lieutenant governor as president of the state Senate. The governor also has no pardon authority but can delay an execution one-time for thirty days. He also shares executive authorithy with the comptroller, agricultural commissioner, land commissioner, and attorney general; so there is no one executive “in charge.” But Lt. Gov. Perry seemed eager to become Governor Perry in December 2000. Perry was the Al Gore point man in TX prior to 1989 and presumably voted for Michael Stanley Dukakis/Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. in 1988.


112 posted on 07/03/2011 7:28:32 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: ohiogrammy

Centralization is the code word in TX education for many years. Even under crusty ol’ Bill Clements, the centralizers were taking over. Centralization means Washington and Austin set the rules, and school boards lobby for more “state aid”.


113 posted on 07/03/2011 7:30:57 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: BillyBoy

Conservative primary voters are few and far between; they keep voting for “moderates” they have “heard of.” Most are too busy earning money to study politics.

Conservatives who think Perry will be a “good” president need look only at the compromising, unreliable Speaker John Boehner. Two peas in a pod, but apparently Perry doesn’t weep in public.


114 posted on 07/03/2011 7:33:35 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: TheZMan

I agree Z-Man.Since we are discussing Perry I am thinking about the instate tuition rates for illegals.There is a lawsuit afoot to overturn this mess.Plaintiffs are needed that pay taxes on revenues from oil and gas royalties. APPARENTLY,this is a revenue stream to fund this travesty.I am trying to help the attorney bring in more plaintiffs. If anyone is interested in participating please respond.


115 posted on 07/03/2011 7:34:29 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: tsowellfan

Yes, I understand there is a section in south Lubbock, TX, with a huge crime rate too.


116 posted on 07/03/2011 7:35:20 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Quickgun

It’s that “anti-Palin” people consider her unelectable and “anti-Perry” people consider him another GWB or Boehner even though the Bushes don’t like Perry, perhaps his best selling point.


117 posted on 07/03/2011 7:56:56 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Grey Eagle
Gardasil was recommended.

It was something that should have been discussed with Texas parents and with the legislature, especially in light of the fact that a good friend of his was lobbying Perry on behalf of Merck. Texas taxpayers were going to have to pick up the tab for poor people at $360 a pop as well.
118 posted on 07/03/2011 8:03:41 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: The Theophilus
So you think that Perry did all of that just for a measly $6000 in re-election campaign funds from Merck.

He did it because a good friend of his worked for Merck and was lobbying Perry on behalf of Merck. That is a typical pattern for Perry - when he does something that pisses off conservatives or taxpayers, usually a friend of his is associated, whether it's Merck, the TTC, his support of open borders and guest workers, and so on.
119 posted on 07/03/2011 8:05:43 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: CowboyJay
Being pro-life isn’t enough to recuse him on nearly every other issue dear to conservatives.

He supported a pro-abortion candidate in 2008 for President.
120 posted on 07/03/2011 8:06:34 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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