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No fairy tale ending to Lithuania’s gay rights row
http://rt.com ^ | 05 February, 2011 | Russian Today

Posted on 07/02/2011 10:23:56 AM PDT by Maelstorm

Lithuania is torn apart over what stance to take toward its own gay population. As the country grapples with how much tolerance it will tolerate, it is facing strong pressure from the EU.

­Local deputies have recently voted for the draft law banning “homosexual propaganda”. The European Parliament reacted immediately, lancing those who disapprove of what many see as the agitation of homosexuality in schools and, what is even more surprising, in kindergartens.

The struggle escalated in 2009 when the National Association of Parents and Families petitioned the Lithuanian Ministry of Labor and Social Security, complaining about a teaching technique and project called “Gender Loops” that was being introduced in kindergartens. It was a fairy tale called “A King and a King” that triggered the parents’ rage. The summary of the tale is quite unusual: a prince went to see a princess in order to propose to her. But on the way to the princess, the prince saw her brother and fell in love with him, forgetting all about the princess. And the princes lived happily ever after. The tale was illustrated with colorful pictures, drawing the kids’ attention to gender roles.In some European circles, it is believed that such fairy tales help instill in children a tolerance for homosexuality. But Katya Chirkunova, a Moscow psychologist and psychiatrist, told RT that children do not need any special projects and techniques in order to become tolerant.

“The kids whose parents demonstrate tolerance toward homosexuals will automatically grow up to be tolerant themselves. Small children will most certainly not be able to perceive such fairy tales correctly,” said Chirkunova.

The teachers who were supposed to read “A King and a King” to kids were horrified. They believed they were helping instill in children not tolerance, but rather a “craving” for homosexuality.

“Such education causes damage, distorting the fundamental human values, blends the man’s and woman’s gender identities," the Lithuanian Catholic Church wrote in an appeal to the country’s president, chairman of the Seim (Parliament) and prime minister.

Olga Malykh, an experienced Russian teacher, believes children must grow up to be tolerant, but that such education should start when they are 10 to 12 years of age.

“It is not right to teach them to be tolerant of homosexuality when kids are not really interested in sexual relations at all just yet,” Malykh said. “Illustrated fairy tales bring more harm than good – kids like colorful pictures, and a 7 year old is sure to say, ‘I want to be like him too!’, without even understanding.”

Political differences

­The book containing the disputed fairy tale was soon withdrawn from kindergartens. And the consequences followed immediately. The Lithuanian parliament was so shocked by the fairy tale that a law about the defense of minors from “perverse information” was passed in the country, guaranteeing that access to information about homosexuality was limited for children.

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The law was harshly criticized by the EU, European Parliament deputies and two non-governmental organizations – Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. The law summarily gutted, and only the item dealing with limiting children’s access to information encouraging sexual intimacy was left intact. The line banning the “public promotion of homosexual or bisexual relations” was withdrawn for good.“Children must have access to any information concerning sexual relations if they are interested in it,” argued one of the co-founders of the Best For magazine. “Parents should not lie to kids or try to hide any information; if a child is interested, it is the parents’ duty to carefully and correctly explain everything he is willing to know.”

But the withdrawal of the fairy tale did not close the chapter – far from it. The public cried out against a gay pride parade that was organized in Vilnius on May 8, 2010. City authorities were against the demonstration, but finally the participants got the nod, and the parade was organized, but under tough police supervision. The supervision, however, was not up to the occasion – there were hundreds of people who were willing to force their way toward the demonstrators and throw stones at them, a few politicians included.

­LTU versus EU

­Although Lithuanian society is not particularly open to homosexuality, it has not prevented openly gay men from pursuing careers in public office. One of the Seim deputies, Rocas Zhilinskas, a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee and Europe Committee, makes no secret of his sexual orientation.

“I’m absolutely happy, but prefer to enjoy my private life at home,” he said. “I see no reason to tell everybody I’m a homosexual because it is nobody’s business.”

But Rocas’s colleagues have not lowered their flags. Pyatras Grazhulis, a deputy from the Order and Justice Party, introduced a new law that provided punishment for promoting “homosexual propaganda”. The law involved a $400 fine for what they would deem as propaganda, and immediately triggered a mass protest in Europe. Pyatras, incidentally, was one of those who tried to demonstrate against the gay pride parade in Vilnius. Joe Higgins, an Irish European MP, compared the desire of Lithuanian politicians to fight gay rights promotion to Stalinist purges. And an Austrian European MP, Ulrike Lunazek, reminded her Lithuanian counterparts that all Lithuanian citizens fought for the country’s independence, gays included, so it would be an injustice to restrain their activities today.

Political analyst Kirill Koktysh believes the struggle between the EU and Lithuania is not really about tolerance.

“The EU cannot be called a single entity just yet; it is still to acquire its unity,” Koktysh said.“I believe the struggle with Lithuania has a sole goal: to hurt Lithuania’s reputation, and vice versa. The question is not whether kids should grow up being tolerant, but who wins the argument.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Russia
KEYWORDS: eussr; homosexualagenda; kindergartens; lithuania

This is an old story but it illustrates exactly what is coming and in many places is already here. They want the minds of our children so they later can have their bodies.

1 posted on 07/02/2011 10:24:03 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

If Lithuania could stand up to the Soviets, they can stand up to the EU.


2 posted on 07/02/2011 10:24:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Maelstorm

The EUSSR...


3 posted on 07/02/2011 10:26:54 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you dropped your bow?")
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To: dfwgator

They did.


4 posted on 07/02/2011 10:27:42 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Maelstorm
And the Princes happily gave birth to an 6”, 4oz POS.
5 posted on 07/02/2011 10:34:16 AM PDT by JPG (Elect Sarah Palin in '12. America won't get another chance.)
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To: Maelstorm

How upside-down is the world when a tiny group of perverts can demand conformance to their deviance by the vast majority of right-thinking people? If tyranny by the majority is wrong, how much more wrong is tyranny by the minority?


6 posted on 07/02/2011 10:38:44 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Maelstorm
The teachers who were supposed to read “A King and a King” to kids were horrified.

Sounds more like 'A Tale of Two Queens' if you ask me.

7 posted on 07/02/2011 10:42:36 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: Maelstorm

Homosexuals target everybody ~ and they start the practice as young as they can get away with.


8 posted on 07/02/2011 10:44:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Maelstorm

“I’m absolutely happy, but prefer to enjoy my private life at home,” he said. “I see no reason to tell everybody I’m a homosexual because it is nobody’s business.”

I wish the ones who live here were so private.


9 posted on 07/02/2011 10:49:43 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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I agree. I noticed that comment and the truth is that very many homosexuals do live exactly that way and I don’t seem them as an enemy. However the juvenile egocentric ‘I must be out and proud’ crowd and ‘you must love me or else’ are just no better than vermin in my eyes.


10 posted on 07/02/2011 11:00:51 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

“The EUSSR...”

Unless they successfully make us a colony again, we will be at war with the EU eventually. Their intermeddling is intolerable.


11 posted on 07/02/2011 11:46:39 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

In the USA, in contrast, the teachers would be delighted to use such a book. Unfortunately, large numbers of them would find the words too hard to pronounce.


12 posted on 07/02/2011 12:16:56 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Maelstorm

If it’s natural, why does everyone have to be indoctrinated from childhood not to show disgust and hatred for the act?


13 posted on 07/02/2011 12:35:03 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: madprof98
In the USA, in contrast, the teachers would be delighted to use such a book. Unfortunately, large numbers of them would find the words too hard to pronounce.

Mandatory Standardized testing for would teachers. When ever this brought up, the teachers unions start howling. They'll point to things that they deem 'intangible', which I believe is simply cover for a leftist, gay rights, and other indoctrination programs.

14 posted on 07/02/2011 3:17:36 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: Psalm 144
Unless they successfully make us a colony again, we will be at war with the EU eventually. Their intermeddling is intolerable.

We need to simply ignore Europe. We left for good reason We intervened on two occasions (WWI AND WWII of course, not to mention their upkeep during the Cold War) and they still cannot keep their house in order.

I'm starting to lean to not quite an isolationist policy, but pretty close. Relations with other nations are fraught with trouble, no matter what stance we take or what we do.

Seek energy independence, endeavor to fix our problems first and foremost. Let the rest kill each other. Europe has a propensity for this type of course.

Rebuild our military strength, and make it well known that we want to be left alone. Or else.

15 posted on 07/02/2011 3:37:58 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: Maelstorm
“Such education causes damage, distorting the fundamental human values, blends the man’s and woman’s gender identities," the Lithuanian Catholic Church wrote in an appeal to the country’s president, chairman of the Seim (Parliament) and prime minister.
Right on.
16 posted on 07/02/2011 4:09:09 PM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: Maelstorm

Placemark.


17 posted on 07/02/2011 9:23:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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