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Thanks Still Thinking!

I'm sure there are others who haven't missed the irony of us being caught between a rock and a hard spot. On the one hand legalizing dope is generally a libtard cause; on the other, states rights and 10th Amendment issues generally a conservative cause, particularly since Jug Ears was coronated. We're left defending a practice we generally find destructive to advance a greater principle of a limited feral government.

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The refutation of a dilema is performed according to the philosophical rules of logic by either grasping one of the horns, or escaping between them. Either demonstrate one or the other horn is invalid and the problem is solved; or propose another solution (thereby nullifying the dilema).

I can not condone libertarian idealism because I’m a pragmatist and realist. Libertarianism is nothing but pie-in-the-sky utopian idealism.

In an ideal world communism would be great also, but given human nature it ultimately is one of the most evil forms of governance.

If but for the socialst nanny-state predeliction of our Overlord leaders, there’s nothing wrong with letting people fail and conduct in sefl-destructive behavior. Same with immigration, let anybody in that wants to come in; there aren’t any government programs for them to parasite off of. Eventually they’ll go back to where they came from (or go somewhere else, e.g., Canada).

What business does the government have telling people not to be stupid? What business does government have in outlawing stupidity? You want to smoke crack? Idiot. I’m not going to stop you. But my Smith & Wesson will make sure you don’t leave my premesis with my belongings to feed your habit.

On the other hand, does society have a right to protect itself from practices that are known to be a danger to society itself? For exsample: is it a crime to operate a motor vehicle with 0.30 BAC? Or is it a crime to crash into and kill somebody? Or is it so DANGEROUS to drive with BAC 0.30 that it is considered wantonly and depraved recklessness? Same with illicit drug use, prostitution, etc. (all those libertarian ideals of ‘freedom’).

It is our doper fellow citizens who put us between a rock and a hard place. Do we let them trash our nation even further? Or do we cry out for a tyrant who’ll preserve our country (or what’s left of it) from their dope-destruction?

We have demonstrated an incapacity for self-government, so we must instead be ruled over. The very aspect of the colonists which justified their independence is the thing we have lost.

So we’re losing our freedom, and deservedly so. We act like children. Our parents have given us a little freedom and trust, and we run wild like we’re in “Lord of the Flies”. Can we handle freedom? Obviously not.

We can blame the tyrants. But that’s like blaming the lion for chasing down a sick antelope. The tyrant is always there, waiting. And we’ve made our nation sick and weak, helpless to defend against him.

We deserve what we’re getting, because not enough of us will tell the dopers - and all the rest of those who will not rule themselves - to knock it off and act like grown men and women. I’m ashamed at what we’ve become, and plenty ticked off at those who have perverted liberty into license and so brought tyranny down on all our heads.

We're left defending a practice we generally find destructive to advance a greater principle of a limited feral government.

It's a "hate the sin, love ths sinner" kind of deal.

Defending the right to free speech means defending someone else's right to say something you don't agree with.

The right to the keep and bear arms also applies to people we might not necessarily like or trust.

In our constitutional republic,the Tenth Amendment means that the states have the right to pass laws we don't agree with.

The Founders talked about the States being "laboratories of democracy", and weren't under any illusion that every law they passed would be good law, but believed that when they did pass bad laws the people would sort it out and fix it once they had a taste of living under it.

Don't forget that we still have the process of amendment and can still use it to give that power to the federal government if the states and the people decide that's what they want.

Do not let anyone make you defend "drug legalization" for recognizing that the authority to pass those laws was never properly granted to the national government and thus, still rests with the States. It's a dishonest tactic and anybody that tries it needs to be called out and confronted head on.