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To: ansel12
I do not support “the homosexual agenda” by accepting that they have rights any more than that by accepting Nazi's have rights means I support “the Nazi agenda”.

I didn't change my tune at all. I said (once you changed the subject to violent and property crimes) that I supported laws against robbery and violent crimes, but that consistent with my statement - the law is insufficient; apparently that was above your reading comprehension level.

Where there is morality a law is not needed, where there is no morality the law will be insufficient.

Law enforces compliance with the law, it doesn't curb licentiousness.

Keeping unaccompanied kids out of R rated movies is a good thing - but it doesn't stop kids for seeing R rated movies.

Once you accept that government has the power to regulate the minutiae of life - the morality of your San Francisco Fag mirror image will be used to regulate the minutiae of life to enforce their morality against circumcision, happy meal toys, fattening foods, non acceptance of homosexual clients and tenants.

The nannyState is what you want - just a different nanny.

292 posted on 07/02/2011 12:00:22 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

This is like talking to some dreamy stoned teen, law helps us keep the damage to a minimum, we are not a little commune, or cult, where everyone is on the same page, we used to be sort of like that, but your types brought in the courts and a left wing government to break up all that cohesion. The fact is that when the good people can’t make their good laws, laws don’t just go away, it creates an environment that brings in more law, and more government.

Your fantasy makes things worse, not better.

You keep chanting your mantra like a stoner, chanting doesn’t maintain good order and a safe and decent, family friendly culture.

Frankly you aren’t making any sense at all, I don’t even know what your point is, you contradict yourself.

You seem to be talking about a no laws standards for a monastery, not a nation of 300 million people. You keep chanting about everyone being moral is enough, well we aren’t all moral and the more you types prevail, the less moral we become as a whole, the less able we are to encourage morality, to sell it as the widely held standard, to display it as normal, to forcefully remind someone who is immoral that they can not exploit our kids, or our common space as the culture sinks deeper into the morass, that is why we need law to keep sociopaths and criminals, and pornographers and homosexuals, and pushers, and pimps, and so on within boundaries, and to get them to hide their excesses from public view, the way that we treated homosexuality and consumption sins for 200 years.

Why don’t you go smoke a doobie and put your repetitious chant that you see as the end to the world’s problems, to music, or at least on a bumper sticker.


293 posted on 07/02/2011 1:29:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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