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Minimum 20% Down to be Required? (Let's Reinflate the Bubble!!)
Main Street Business Journal ^ | 29 June 2011 | A.N.Onymous

Posted on 06/30/2011 7:25:03 AM PDT by Notary Sojac

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To: Notary Sojac

What a coincidence, Johnny Isakson made a fortune as a realtor.


21 posted on 06/30/2011 7:54:29 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: arthurus
certainly reasonable but not if the government makes the requirement

I'm fine with the free market determining the terms for loans if the lender eats any losses rather than selling the loans to Freddie/Fannie or coming to the taxpayer for a bailout.

It's because we have not yet thoroughly purged the idea of "too big to fail" from our culture that we have the government setting these requirements.

22 posted on 06/30/2011 7:55:06 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: Moose4

see my post 22 above


23 posted on 06/30/2011 7:56:02 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: MrB
"it would let the market work"

The market stopped working the day that Henry Paulson went on his knees in front of Nancy Pelosi, begging for $800 billion so his buds wouldn't have to face the consequences of their imprudent decisions.

It has not been restarted since.

24 posted on 06/30/2011 8:03:14 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: Notary Sojac

“This economy cannot recover if housing does not recover. It’s one-sixth of the economy,”

Driving housing prices down even further than current would not be helpful.


25 posted on 06/30/2011 8:06:05 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: Notary Sojac

Maybe, and I know this is a crazy idea, we should let lenders determine the acceptable level of risk when writing mortgages and other loans.


26 posted on 06/30/2011 8:12:53 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: struggle
I'm not big on credit scores as a main driver.

FICO is too sensitive to perfect timing of payment history and small nonpayments (many of which are disputable). You can have a good FICO and still get in way over your head with a loan.

Debt to income ratio (no more than 3:1 including the loan), employment history, and accurate valuation of the property ("recent comparable sales" are what gave us the bubble, I much prefer "no more than 120x monthly rents for comparable residences") are what say "good risk" to me.

27 posted on 06/30/2011 8:15:04 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Congress shouldn’t be making any regulations dictating down payments. Minimum or max. They need to stay ouit of it


28 posted on 06/30/2011 8:18:52 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: texmexis best; knittnmom
It's not the government's job to drive housing prices down, neither is it their job to drive them up.

Anyone should be free to make any loan they want to anyone else at any terms which are mutually agreeable, as long as the lender is at full risk (not one penny from the taxpayers!) if that loan is not repaid.

Personally I have no confidence, NO confidence, in the ability of our government (whether Democrat or Republican) to resist the calls for a bailout of the TBTF's when the next phony crisis comes along.

So the fewer loans that get made, the fewer bad loans I'll eventually get saddled with as a taxpayer.

29 posted on 06/30/2011 8:20:31 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I agree. But also, I do not think a first time home buyer should be expected to be able to afford a MEDIAN priced home.
I would expect most of us here in freeperland bought a cheap house for our first place, and worked up from there.
By quoting the 20% downpayment for the median priced home the congress critters are intentionally misrepresenting the effect on the first time buyers.


30 posted on 06/30/2011 8:21:10 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: driftdiver

see posts 22 and 29


31 posted on 06/30/2011 8:21:21 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: Notary Sojac
The risk of default is inversely proportional to the size of the down payment.

Period.

If you get something for nothing down, you lose nothing if you walk away.

And speaking of default rates, blacks have a much higher default rate than other categories of borrowers, meaning that they were not being held to a higher standard, they were being held to a lower standard.

32 posted on 06/30/2011 8:21:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: sr4402
The industry should regulate itself and 20% down should be about the minimum

They used to.

Then young lawyers, fresh out of college, like Barry Obama, took the banks to court on the basis that 20% down was racist.

33 posted on 06/30/2011 8:26:03 AM PDT by kidd
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To: grellis
I think it would make more sense, in the economic long run, to allow new or questionably accredited homebuyers to borrow up to 125% against any home in which they show interest.

Well, after all, it is a Constitutional right. You can find it in the Constitution right under the guaranteed right to kill any babies you don't want.

34 posted on 06/30/2011 8:40:21 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: struggle

You base a loan on a persons ability to repay it not on some BS score from some credit bureau. Lets face it if you can’t afford to repay the loan you shouldn’t be given one to begin with and that’s been the problem.

Banks have been lending to very high risk individuals simply because the loans have been backed by bad government programs.

Common sense goes along ways. That’s why government programs don’t use it.


35 posted on 06/30/2011 8:43:03 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The average house back then was about 1200 square feet. Those same houses are going for 2-3 times average income in my area.

The problem is that the people who can afford a 1200 square foot house are trying to buy 2500 square foot houses.


36 posted on 06/30/2011 8:49:11 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: kidd

Some folks just can’t afford 20%, 10% or even 5% down no matter how long they save but they can afford to make a house payment.

Banks should base a loan on ability to repay not by the size of the down payment. A large down payment DOES NOT guarantee the loan will be repaid and that’s been proven over and over.


37 posted on 06/30/2011 8:49:35 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: SMARTY

Because now the banks are being OVERLY restrictive on lending, and the result is prices for rentals is skyrocketing. My counter question is: why are you in favor of the government setting the down payment requirement - should that not be a free market outcome?


38 posted on 06/30/2011 8:50:21 AM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: Notary Sojac
“This rule is an overreach. If left as is, it would make recovery in the housing market almost impossible,” said Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.).

As soon as I read the headline I knew Isakson would be wormed in there somehow. He's not a Senator, he's a real estate agent lobbying from the inside. Worst of the seven candidates for the seat in 2004 and not getting any better.

39 posted on 06/30/2011 8:53:50 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Those that despise people will never get the best out of others and themselves. Tocqueville)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
should that not be a free market outcome

See posts 22 and 29. If I truly believed that the government would have the cojones to say no the next time Wall Street pulls a Chicken Little like they did in 2008, I would entirely agree with you.

40 posted on 06/30/2011 8:58:32 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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