[mad_as_he$$]

Not at all. I am just saying that most of what is wrong with the EPA came into being under W. If you look into the facts of this case it started under W.

PRIEST LAKE, Idaho - In November of 2007 officials from the Environmental Protection Agency told Mike and Chantelle Sackett they violated the Clean Water Act by filling in their Priest Lake property without first obtaining a permit because their property is on a federal wetland. The EPA issued a compliance order requiring the Sacketts to remove the fill material and restore the land to its original condition. The Sacketts say they were completely blind sided.

[SatinDoll]

“...In November of 2007 officials from the Environmental Protection Agency told Mike and Chantelle Sackett they violated the Clean Water Act by filling in their Priest Lake property without first obtaining a permit...”

Where I live in the Pacific Northwest, almost everything having to do with water impacts salmon streams. It is possible to alter the seepage of ground water on your property by putting in a catchment basin, but you just don’t go ahead and do it - you talk to a land use planner with the county and get permits.

It is hard to believe the Sacketts would have done anything without at least going to the local county planning office and finding out whether they needed a permit.

[SatinDoll]

I worked in a land use planning office with a county in Oregon during 1996. Could have had a permanent job there, but couldn’t stomach the draconian land use regulations.

Clinton was in the White House. The EPA has been behaving like a part of the old Soviet Union since long before W rolled into Washington, D.C.

[Hootowl99]

Actually, the EPA started down its path to being a monster under the Carter administration.

Under Carter, the EPA started replacing engineers with lawyers. More emphasis on litigation and edict and less on solutions. The civil service bureaucracy sustained this changed attitude and incrementally increased it one step at a time.

IMHO, the EPA was a very positive step originally and fostered essential improvements in largely practical ways. No longer do I believe this though and haven't for quite a time.

[tacticalogic]

Not at all. I am just saying that most of what is wrong with the EPA came into being under W. If you look into the facts of this case it started under W.

What's wrong with the EPA started under FDR, with a farmer named Roscoe Filburn.

[Redbob]

" I am just saying that most of what is wrong with the EPA came into being under W."

That is one of the most ridiculous statements I've read on FR in a long time.

You don't seriously think the EPA was a bunch of knights on white horses until Dubya's term in office, do you?
Does the name William Ruckelshaus ring a bell?
Look it up if it doesn't.