Posted on 06/28/2011 8:56:19 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
India to get anti-submarine torpedoes from US
Indo-Asian News Service
New Delhi, June 28, 2011
India will get lightweight anti-submarines torpedoes to arm the eight P-8I maritime patrol aircraft it is buying from the US, with the Obama administration notifying the potential sale to the US Congress on Tuesday. The news was welcomed by the US embassy in New Delhi, which said the sale of Mk -54 torpedoes reflects the mutual benefits of the India-US security relationship.
The Pentagon has "officially notified" the potential sale of Mk-54 lightweight torpedoes to the Indian Navy.
The Mk-54 is the most advanced lightweight torpedo in the US Navy inventory and is intended to be employed with the P-8I maritime patrol aircraft, eight of which are currently under construction for India by US aerospace major Boeing.
The P-8I, equipped with Mk-54 torpedoes, will provide highly-effective long-range anti-submarine warfare capabilities for the Indian Navy.
"The final content and price for the deal will be determined during discussions with the Indian government," the US embassy in New Delhi said.
"This sale reflects the mutual benefits of the U.S.-India security partnership. For India, the combined sale of the P-8I aircraft with the Mk-54 torpedoes will add to India’s anti-submarine capability, as it expands its ability to protect India and the critical sea lanes of the Indian Ocean," it said.
"The offer highlights the US commitment to share cutting-edge technology with India and to ensure that both nations enjoy the benefits of a secure and stable South Asia," it added.
In addition to the US Navy, the Mk-54 torpedo is also in service with the Royal Australian Navy.
Pakistan is likely concerned
What the heck is that? A torpedo cruise missile?
That is Raytheon’s entry in the High Altitude ASW Weapon Concept (HAAWC) competition, called Fish Hawk. The Lockheed Martin version is called LongShot (http://www.gizmag.com/go/7344/). The idea is to enable the maritime patrol aircraft to remain at a higher altitude and still prosecute submarines. The wing adaptor is jettisoned near the surface and the torpedo continues after the target.
Every time. 100% effective at taking out submarines at any depth without regard to the acoustic environment in which it operates.
And, a P-8 aircraft can pick up submarines via their magnetic signature, follow-up with sonar bouys to pinpoint and lay one of these in your neighborhood quite rapidly...moving to the next target.
Again, if you are on a sub of ANY type and you have one of these after you, you are dead.
Why make a torpedo push miles of water to get to a target if it can fly to the general area and then hunt?
Well huh.
I guess technology has jumped in leaps and bounds.
When I was in P-3s we localized using sonobouy barriers, narrowed the search (after contact) using DIFAR (directional sonobouys) and then prosecuted using the magnetic anomoly detection (MAD) gear which had a finite range, altitude of aircraft plus depth of target.
It sounds like I have the sequence wrong. I was in a VQ not a VP.
However, this blog gives me great concern in regards to the P-8. Seems they stripped MAD gear from the package because this bird can't stay low and slow enough.
http://aw1tim.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/more-p_8-poseidon-goodness/
If ever we needed high numbers of ASW platforms, now is the time. Everyone is building subs in high volume. And, we don't have enough attack boats to keep track of all of them anymore.
You have to be missing those 14hr flights on the P-3 at 200ft. What a fantastic aircraft.
So these suckers will be copied and sold to our enemies. The Indian navy needs these for ? Our highest tech equipment needs to stay here,Asians copy everything and are good at it and sale it to whoever wants it.
No P or 2P will decline getting the 737 time, but that's not the purpose, is it.
I'll concede the airframes are getting long in the tooth, but it's a shame they couldn't just open a factory somewhere (we need jobs, right?) and rebuild the damn thing with upgraded electronics.
No P or 2P will decline getting the 737 time, but that's not the purpose, is it.
I'll concede the airframes are getting long in the tooth, but it's a shame they couldn't just open a factory somewhere (we need jobs, right?) and rebuild the damn thing with upgraded electronics.
You got it all wrong. Its not India that does that, it is Pakistan. America’s enemy (China) is also India’s enemy.
We need to push more SURTASS platforms out.
Right. And we have the wartime statistical evidence to prove it, too.
Wait. No we don’t. We haven’t sunk an advanced evading enemy sub with a war shot in decades.
The guys who built the early Sparrows and Sidewinders probably made the same claim and backed it up by shooting down drones. Never believe manufacturer claims and cut peacetime testing results in half (at least!). Its generally a lot better to find out that you underestimated your own weapons’ performance than to overestimate their performance. That way, the surprises are, hopefully, pleasant ones.
I’ll believe it when I get a spread sheet that shows “so may launches for so many hits for so many kills.” Something I hope I never see, since it would require a war.
Right. And we have the wartime statistical evidence to prove it, too.
Wait. No we don’t. We haven’t sunk an advanced evading enemy sub with a war shot in decades.
The guys who built the early Sparrows and Sidewinders probably made the same claim and backed it up by shooting down drones. Never believe manufacturer claims and cut peacetime testing results in half (at least!). Its generally a lot better to find out that you underestimated your own weapons’ performance than to overestimate their performance. That way, the surprises are, hopefully, pleasant ones.
I’ll believe it when I get a spread sheet that shows “so may launches for so many hits for so many kills.” Something I hope I never see, since it would require a war.
Including the ultra quiet diese boats built by the Swedes? Apparently, one sub we rented out was a ble to surface in the midst of a CBG! How would they possibly target such a quiest sub?
Nope, but we've passed dozens of these under the hull of our own advanced, evading subs. As long as the trigger works, they'll do just fine.
sorry for being late,but china is india’s biggest trading partner,or close to it,they will sell anything to anyone.
You should be more sorry for being wrong.
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