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To: hummingbird
On Borders, Bush wasn't any better. This baffled me since Texas was his home.

I liked Bush but couldn't figure out a closing of the border for him either.


Well Bush was raised on the East Coast for the most part - prep schools and Harvard and Yale, and you can look at his dad for an international influence as well.

I agree though, after 9/11, the border should have been shut down. I don't care if Perry was preaching the virtues of open borders the month prior to 9/11, 9/11 should have been a wake up call to everybody.

As for Perry and his stance on the borders, like I said, I think either the GOP (state or national) or his donors told him to make a public statement rejecting Arizona-style illegal immigration legislation, or answer questions about it. His views on the world seem to be shaped for purely business/donor reasons, whereas the Bushes seemed to have other reasons. I'm not saying one is better than the other.

If 9/11 had not happened, and Perry kept on preaching the virtues of open borders, eventually the drug violence would have caused him to stop that nonsense anyways.
94 posted on 06/25/2011 4:43:32 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

So he was raised by schools on the east coast?

Uh. no.

Moved to Odessa at age eighteen months, a baby. Grew up in Midland attending Midland public elementary and junior high schools. Played little league ball, was a cub scout.

Father was in the oil biz and moved the family to Houston, still in TX, when W was about to enter high school. I don’t know about you, but by the time I was about to enter high school there ain’t nobody on the face of the earth that could’ve changed me from what my family and my neighborhood instilled in me to be.

W proved that out, for although following family tradition to Andover prep and Yale, he returned to Texas, at first living in Houston. Joined the Texas Air National Guard. Moved back to Midland and went into the oil biz himself, later selling the biz and buying into the Texas Rangers, thereupon moving his family to Dallas, which now included a Midland girl, Laura, and their two daughters. While in Midland he ran for Congress from that district, driving all over the forsaken West Texas landscape to campaign, but alas, lost to a Dem named Kent Hance (who used the big myth that W was an Easterner to defeat him and laughs about it to this day).

From his position with the Rangers he ran and won against Ann Richards for governor of TX. He bought a ranch in a very rural area west of Waco which he dearly loves and goes to often. His Presidential Library is at SMU in Dallas where they have primary residence since leaving the WH.

Those who knew him while at Andover and Yale are unanimous and unequivocal that he was different from his classmates and his TEXAN came through every pore. (Unlike Obama, just about everybody knew him and remembers him from those days.) In his Yale MBA classes he wore cowboy boots and a flight jacket. Real Yalie, he was.

I bet you have repeated the fiction that he was East Coast so many times, you now think it’s proven history.

If that is the biography of an Easterner, I’ll eat my cowgirl hat.


99 posted on 06/25/2011 7:26:18 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: af_vet_rr

W is Texan through and through.

As is Rick Perry.

There is no need to come up with theories such as “he was raised on the East Coast or his father is NWO” to try explaining Texans varied views on illegal immigration. The state carries within it the seeds of all of the varied views, for the state is so diverse.

I know an Hispanic of the old school who lived in the Midwest for years but was born and raised in Texas. Now back in Texas, he says every illegal should be sent packing. His own ancestors have been in Texas as far back as he knows anything about them, but long, long years ago the border was passed over back and forth and back and forth, without laws to attempt regulation. Suffice it to say in his mind this Hispanic is an American, period. He does not want those here who now come over, flouting our laws, and swarming into our systems and overloading them.

W has expressed his sympathy for the struggling poor of Mexico who come here to work in order to put food on their children’s table. He has seen and met and spoken with people like this and he has too big of a bleeding heart for his own, and this nation’s, good.

Other people claim his business buddies run the whole show and that’s all he cares about...their views who themselves use illegal workers. I do not believe that is his reason. But that is merely my opinion.

Point is, we have it all. We have militants who are trying to take over Texas and America by immigrant invasion. We have old school Hispanics that are angry at these invaders and want them rounded up and deported. We have conservative evangelicals who demand border enforcement and we have liberal evangelicals and some Catholics who claim it is unChristian to turn these people back or even detain them, who house them in churches. We have criminal gangs linked to Mexico. You name it, we have it.

For Rick Perry or W, no need to look beyond Texas itself to find the seeds of whatever is their particular view.

Average Texans are very fed up with the invasion and the violence, and with the hypocrisy of Mexico in encouraging these illegals to come here while having the most severe punishment for anyone entering Mexico illegally.


106 posted on 06/25/2011 8:41:03 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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