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To: SunkenCiv; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ~Peter; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; 4woodenboats; ...

It’s not just the Ottoman Empire. AntiMullah has analyzed and written about Gulen some years ago and basically discovered that he is the Turkish equivalent Iran’s Khomeini back in 1979.

BTW did anyone realize that Khomeini’s original motive for attacking the Iranian monarchy and activating overthrowing it was...... the late Shah gave Women the right to vote!!! He said this was anti-Islamic.

That was his publicly stated reason for his anti-monarchy activity.

Shortly followed (when he looked for popular support) by saying the Shah had NO RIGHT to dispossess (often absentee) landowners with properties the size of Switzerland and give this land (Shah’s White Revolution) to the peasants who worked the land. He said this was anti-Islamic!

Without the Soviets and the Marxists-Islamists they cultivated and used against the Monarchy AND Jimmy the Idiot Carter, his crude, dark ages, fundementalist inserruction would never have succeeded and the world would be much safer place today.

And Obama would not have such easy sailing nor such a fertile playing field to detroy us even futher.

It is not an exaggeration to call Gulen the Turkish Khomeini nor Obama the American Khomeini. They both fit the mold pefectly.


21 posted on 06/26/2011 5:49:38 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: FARS
Is Bill Gates' & his foundation's help to fund Gulen's Islamist movement out of ignorance or deliberate? Does Bill Gates deliberately want to spread Islam & Islamism in the USA?

Jimmah was ignorant about Khomeini & Islam - in addition to having other agenda against the Shah. Since then I've heard/read some call Jimmah a "demented loser". Obama OTOH is well informed about Islam & Islamist movements, but goes along with them.

You're of course right about opposition by the clergy to Shah's White Revolution & the right to vote to Iranian women.

Although, I believe A main reason why many Iranian women (not necessarily commie or leftist) supported Khomeini's leadership against the Shah, was because that generation of Iranians never experienced Islamic Rule, and, more importantly, never understood what Islam is really all about.

For example & from personal experience, I don't recall reading anything bad or negative about Arab-Moslem invasion of Iran in history class in Iran, nor about the killings, raping & forcible conversion of my Zoroastrian ancestors or community right up to late/early 20th century in Iran. My older sister says the same. Islam was portrayed in a positive light.

What was represented as "Islam" in Iran during the Shah, wasn't real "Islam". It was somebody's idea of what Islam is or should be. In a way, I can appreciate why Islam was represented as such at the time in Iran. Equally and in hindsight, the misrepresentation of Islam back then did lot more harm than good. Because Islam, itself, has not been reformed in nearly 1400 yrs. And, it brought to Iran a set of Bedouin Arab culture, which has been fairly well embedded since then in Iran.

22 posted on 06/26/2011 6:43:07 PM PDT by odds
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 06/26/2011 9:49:30 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

Watch the strange new calls for women to vote in Saudi Arabia...

The house of Sauds is about to crash.


32 posted on 06/28/2011 4:35:13 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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