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Stolen assault rifle found in home of ex-Marine killed by SWAT
kold.com ^ | 23 June 2011 | Mindy Blake

Posted on 06/23/2011 8:58:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog

Tucson Police confirm that a weapon they found in Jose Guerena's home had been stolen in 2008.

SWAT officers killed Guerena in his southwest side home last month when they went to serve a search warrant.

Investigators say Guerena pointed an assault rifle at officers when they went in the house.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; dupnik; govtabuse; guerena; joseguerena; lyingleos; pimacounty; planted; setup; swat; swatabuse; tucson; tyranny
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To: familyop

Actually, he was allegedly part of a home-invasion robbery ring.

I’ve got problems with the fact that they allowed him to bleed to death while they were ensuring the home was secure. But they were legitimately serving a warrant for suspicion of being part of an armed home-invasion robbery ring, and were met by a man crouching, pointing a gun at them. Hardly the sort of “execution” that people are making it out to be.


21 posted on 06/23/2011 9:11:30 PM PDT by dangus
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To: smokingfrog

The way their convoluted story keeps evolving, it is the sure sign of lies.


22 posted on 06/23/2011 9:12:32 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: smokingfrog
Even if it is a stolen weapon, it doesn’t mean that he is the one who stole it.

Or that he even knew it was stolen, for that matter.

23 posted on 06/23/2011 9:13:48 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: smokingfrog

Doesn’t matter at this point.
SWAT is covering their tracks.

This whole incident stinks.


24 posted on 06/23/2011 9:16:38 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: HMS Surprise

“They strain and produce a gnat. Did he steal it? And, even if he did, is that a capital offense worthy of immediate clownish lethality?”

The noose around their necks is what they did -after- shooting the victim, in refusing medical treatment. Also, photos of the murder scene show about one third of the shots about six to sixteen inches off of the floor, suggesting that the victim was repeatedly shot after he had fallen.

This will be swept under the rug for the immediate future, but there is no statute of limitations on murder.


25 posted on 06/23/2011 9:17:53 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: rawhide

“The FBI needs to step in!”

Remember Waco?

Remember Filegate?


26 posted on 06/23/2011 9:19:20 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: Psalm 144

Remember Ruby Ridge. Lon Horiuchi, part deux.


27 posted on 06/23/2011 9:22:04 PM PDT by andyk (Interstate <> Intrastate)
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To: smokingfrog
prove it...
28 posted on 06/23/2011 9:23:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: smokingfrog
Ok, since his wife said the cops dropped that weapon after they shot him, then it probably came from a police locker somewhere. When asked about the gun she said, " You mean the one they dropped by him after they shot him?".

That statement should be investigated by somebody and not the local police.

29 posted on 06/23/2011 9:23:34 PM PDT by calex59
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To: smokingfrog
Stolen in '08...from the PD evidence locker to this story.

"Hey...here's one we can drop on the the guy."
30 posted on 06/23/2011 9:23:54 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: smokingfrog

Throwdown?


31 posted on 06/23/2011 9:24:43 PM PDT by fso301
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To: smokingfrog
B.S. I don't believe anything law enforcement says anymore.
32 posted on 06/23/2011 9:25:12 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: smokingfrog
Ooooooh, reeeaaally??? Duh!

Now back to that seaside land I'm selling in Kansas.

vaudine

33 posted on 06/23/2011 9:27:39 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: calex59

Link please? I had not heard that?


34 posted on 06/23/2011 9:31:14 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: dangus

So the evidence was related. Thanks.


35 posted on 06/23/2011 9:31:36 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: smokingfrog

Next, they’ll say that he was seen pushing little old ladies down stairs, or that he was in the KKK.


36 posted on 06/23/2011 9:36:10 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: smokingfrog

UNFREAKINGBELEAVABLE.They really are gonna run that up the poll?


37 posted on 06/23/2011 9:38:35 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: calex59
Ok, since his wife said the cops dropped that weapon after they shot him, then it probably came from a police locker somewhere. When asked about the gun she said, " You mean the one they dropped by him after they shot him?".

That statement should be investigated by somebody and not the local police.

She changed her story during the interview.

The transcript is here.

38 posted on 06/23/2011 9:42:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: smokingfrog

The thing that bothers me about the story is this is a trained combat Marine. This Marine had been in combat in Iraq. Per police reports he was crouching at the end of the hall with the AR-15 (which is not an assault weapon) and the weapon was pointed at the SWAT Team. Per the report of that team, his weapon was on safety and not on fire.

It will be a cold day in hell when a combat experienced Marine goes into a situation like this with his weapon not on ready to fire. This Marine did not fire a single round. If this went down as the SWAT team said, he without any doubt would have gotten a few rounds off.

There is one other thing that bothers me greatly. In no reporting that I have read does it say if the weapon had a round chambered.

THE WHOLE DAMN THING STINKS.


39 posted on 06/23/2011 9:43:53 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: dangus
But they were legitimately serving a warrant for suspicion of being part of an armed home-invasion robbery ring, and were met by a man crouching, pointing a gun at them. Hardly the sort of “execution” that people are making it out to be.

Most people jumped to conclusions the first time they read about this incident based on their emotions and prejudices. Any information or evidence which comes out that doesn't fit their hasty conclusions is a conspiracy.

40 posted on 06/23/2011 9:45:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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