Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ayn Rand Was Right: Wealthy Are on Strike Against Obama
Big Government ^ | June 21, 2011 | Wayne Allyn Root

Posted on 06/22/2011 10:18:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 141-160 next last
To: bert

>> The present corporate strategy is static and profitable rather than dynamic and risky. Cash is for keeping rather then investing in hoped for growth....<<

You are correct, it is a “going Galt” hybrid plan but it’s being done for the same reasons. This is why so much “cash is on the sidelines” and why Bernanke remains clueless as to why. He, like all academic theoreticians, does not understand the motivations and preservation instincts of companies, public or private. Flooding the system with money has not dulled those instincts like he thought it would.


61 posted on 06/23/2011 9:17:19 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There are folks on this forum, as far as I know, who are indeed “going Galt.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I am one of them. I refuse to be half ( or more) of a slave to the government!

62 posted on 06/23/2011 9:23:23 AM PDT by wintertime
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill

Well said.

We won’t solve this by replacing a socialist with a pseudo-socialist. We need to evolve the model right back to one that favors the individual over the collective. In other words, to the model the Founders envisioned ... and rightfully thought they’d ensured.


63 posted on 06/23/2011 9:39:18 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill
Where Rand was right, however, is that change must be systemic; that is, a change in the Presidency will not suffice even if the choice is other than Tweedledum and Tweedledee. A change in Congress is a little closer but still entirely insufficient. What is necessary is a change in government such that the centralization of control no longer offers a means for a small ruling class to enrich itself, for those who direct no longer to be able to be separate from those who produce - that is the foundation of Rand's utopia. No one has ever quite managed it, but the Founders came as close as anyone ever has. A desire to return to their principles is not merely a flight of nostalgia beloved of conservatives, but a recognition that it was a far more effective model for releasing human creativity and productivity than the stifling regulatory state that gradually displaced it. That is, after all, what "Liberty" really means.

My wife the other day in her infinite wisdom said, "What Palin wants is a new government." I think all of us are sensing that is what's really needed if America is going to survive - back to what The Founders envisioned. May God guide Sarah and help us all. . . tough times ahead. Pray and persevere.

64 posted on 06/23/2011 9:42:47 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

bfl


65 posted on 06/23/2011 9:47:24 AM PDT by tutstar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill
"it takes a very long time, as the still-running automobiles of Detroit's great years attest in Cuba"

No one is torching the still running autos in Cuba. You're right, it won't/can't go down like in the book. There is no gulch, there are revolutions. Teach your children.


66 posted on 06/23/2011 9:52:41 AM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: C. Edmund Wright

——Bernanke remains clueless -—

There are a host of players including Republicans.

I wonder if Bernake is merely acting out his part and is not really being truthful. He is doing his part to promote controlled inflation/devaluation


67 posted on 06/23/2011 10:14:01 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: bert

>> I wonder if Bernake is merely acting out his part and is not really being truthful. He is doing his part to promote controlled inflation/devaluation >>

I rather think he’s a clueless academic theoretician who does not understand how human nature and natural motivations / disincentives dictate how people will act far more than a money supply equation.


68 posted on 06/23/2011 10:19:48 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; LibertyRocks; libertarian27; bamahead; Christian_Capitalist; LucyT; ...
Since I'm not much of a fiction buff, I'll reserve comment on this interesting comparison between the Obama economy and Atlas Shrugged.

But there is a real world comparison to be made between today's economic picture and the 1930s Depression era under the regime of Franklin D. Roosevelt. Roosevelt, like Obama, entered office in hard economic times (although March 1933 was much worse than Jan. 2009 by any economic measurement). Roosevelt's early ears in office featured increased personal income tax rates (top rate raised to 79%), a new non-distributed corporate profits tax, a new Social Security tax, and hefty increases in federal excise taxes that already existed plus entirely new ones. Some of Roosevelt's make work New Deal projects resembled Obama's stimulus projects. The value of the dollar under Roosevelt was deliberately decreased, although by a different means than today. The "wealthy" were constantly lambasted by Roosevelt, just as they are by Obama and his henchmen. And just like today, the net result was little or no overall improvement over a prolonged period.

69 posted on 06/23/2011 10:43:00 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93

Roosevelt did one thing smart, though. Even while he was spending like a drunken sailor, he was putting the dollar on a strong footing, backed by gold, which was no longer traded and speculated. That way, though the dollar was seriously devalued, it had a mechanism to bring it back. Obama, however, is not interested in doing the same. So the dollar is no longer the world currency it once was.


70 posted on 06/23/2011 10:47:45 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There is a father and son not far from me, son in mid twenties. Both are members of Mensa with seven business’s between them. The business’s are all shut down. They have reduced their economic foot print to the minimum.

They each have a tattoo on their back below the left shoulder.

I AM JOHN GALT

71 posted on 06/23/2011 10:48:12 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Route797

Do you understand that there are more people that are in the wagon than there people pulling the wagon?

There is an estimated 13 to 15 trillion dollars in offshore banks consisting of corporate profits that would be taxed twice if brought back and invested in the USA. Taxed once in the original country earned and if brought back to the US, they would be taxed again by the US. There are hardly any other countries that do this.

We have the highest corporate tax of all of our major trading partners. We are an inhospitable country to do business in. We are paying the price.

Imagine that the legal hurdles/harassment, union thugs, high corporate taxes and double taxation were removed in America. We would see a renaissance of new investment in America with companies and wealthy beating down our doors to invest in our economy. Enact a flat consumption tax instead of income and corporate taxes and stand back.

What is sad is that it is likely other countries that will enact low flat taxes for individuals and corporations and that is where the producers and productive will migrate. We are just too damned stupid and elect politicians that are too damned stupid to change course.


72 posted on 06/23/2011 11:12:32 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Bigun

Didn’t make it through the web page you linked. He needs a cliff’s note version.

This caught my eye

“In 1981, the Reagan administration rolled back some of the success-punitive, anti-privacy laws and tax rates that were contributing to this exodus and indications are that it did have a significant effect. In fact, officially, not a single US citizen renounced his US citizenship the next year.

That statement deserves repeating.

Not a single US citizen renounced his US citizenship the next year - not one.


73 posted on 06/23/2011 11:41:42 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: Hunton Peck; TigersEye; Route797; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; I see my hands; Jack Hydrazine
it should really read “Productive” or more accurately yet, “Wealth-Builders”

And wealth-builders perforce include many members of the middle class and UMC who would like to leave something to their children, if not become more comfortable than they are.

74 posted on 06/23/2011 11:48:12 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: TigersEye

All the while the left is shouting from the rooftops “tax the rich, make them pay their fair share!”


75 posted on 06/23/2011 11:49:35 AM PDT by vlad335
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: TigersEye; onona; Route797
Thank you. I appreciate that. His post sounded like Socialism 101 to me.

Not at all. It was a simple observation that, for business to prosper, there must be money in circulation, i.e. being passed around among more than just a few people.

Example: Let's say M3 is a sum of money X. In one economy, people are buying and selling, and nobody owns more than, say, 0.4% of M3, and the vast majority, a tiny fraction of that.

In the other economy, M3 is the same, but it's all held in one account. One guy owns all the money in the world. That's a dead economy, full of dead people, and the sole owner of all that money is fishing for his own dinner, since there's nobody left for him to work with or sell to. Capiche? It's not an unreasonable observation. Everyone is better off in a growing, busy economy and society, not a wealth-storage economy in which Mr. Big holds all the value and dispenses it with tweezers, never lending or investing and never buying more than enough to meet his own needs.

76 posted on 06/23/2011 11:56:25 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93
If you ever want to compare fiction with current events, check out these threads.

FReeper Book Club: Introduction to Atlas Shrugged
Part I, Chapter I: The Theme
Part I, Chapter II: The Chain
Part I, Chapter III: The Top and the Bottom
Part I, Chapter IV: The Immovable Movers
Part I, Chapter V: The Climax of the d’Anconias
Part I, Chapter VI: The Non-Commercial
Part I, Chapter VII: The Exploiters and the Exploited
Part I, Chapter VIII: The John Galt Line
Part I, Chapter IX: The Sacred and the Profane
Part I, Chapter X: Wyatt’s Torch
Part II, Chapter I: The Man Who Belonged on Earth
Part II, Chapter II: The Aristocracy of Pull
Part II, Chapter III: White Blackmail
Part II, Chapter IV: The Sanction of the Victim
Part II, Chapter V: Account Overdrawn
Part II, Chapter VI: Miracle Metal
Part II, Chapter VII: The Moratorium on Brains
Part II, Chapter VIII: By Our Love
Part II, Chapter IX: The Face Without Pain or Fear or Guilt
Part II, Chapter X: The Sign of the Dollar
Part III, Chapter I: Atlantis
Part III, Chapter II: The Utopia of Greed
Part III, Chapter III: Anti-Greed
Part III, Chapter IV: Anti-Life
Part III, Chapter V: Their Brothers’ Keepers
Part III, Chapter VI: The Concerto of Deliverance
Part III, Chapter VII: “This is John Galt Speaking”
Part III, Chapter VIII: The Egoist
Part III, Chapter IX: The Generator
Part III, Chapter X: In the Name of the Best Within Us
Coda: Ten Years After
Afterword and Suggested Reading

77 posted on 06/23/2011 11:57:07 AM PDT by Publius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: lentulusgracchus

That doesn’t resemble the content of his post at all.


78 posted on 06/23/2011 12:03:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawgg
We do alot of bartering and are big into coupons and other alternate forms of payment methods

Expect a hostile audit. If you come to the attention of Obama's political droolers, they will send the flying monkeys.

79 posted on 06/23/2011 12:03:40 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: lentulusgracchus

Capiche?


80 posted on 06/23/2011 12:03:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 141-160 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson