[dirtboy]

Yeah, I'm starting to feel the same way. If Palin doesn't get in and Perry does, at this point I would favor Perry over Bachmann - to a large extent, because I don't see where Bachmann has the mettle to win a national race, and has too severe a case of Beltway flu where the unethical can be rationalized away because her ethical lapses aren't as bad as others.

Not what we want or need in 2012.

[unseen1]

nope one of the problems with McCain is that any attack he made on Obama , Obama simply said well you did it too. and thus it become a popularity contest. McCain could get run against Obama on the issues. the mor ehe tried the more he looked like Obama. Obama would do the same with Bachmann.

Need more than talking points at this stage. We need character we need a Ness to run against al copone.