are you saying then that the trauma causes a subconscious choice?
it is still a choice. nature intends male female connections at birth for procreation of the species. attraction to others is a matter of choice. acting on those attractions is a matter of choice.
i haven’t seen anything else to change my mind... we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
teeman
“are you saying then that the trauma causes a subconscious choice?”
No, not at all, no more than people unconsciously choose to have PTSD. That’s the whole thing about disorders caused by trauma—the trauma knocks you off kilter with great emotional violence, and you have no choice in that.
The only choice involved is the choice to seek treatment...or, since the victim is surrounded by so many lying voices glorifying his suffering, the choice not to seek treatment.
“attraction to others is a matter of choice.”
How could that be so? Could you make that choice? Can you conceive of any circumstances under which you would lose the ability to appreciate the female form and turn to, as the comedian said, another man’s hairy butt? Because I find that utterly incomprehensible.
“acting on those attractions is a matter of choice.”
For men who suffer from same-sex attraction disorder, it is a compulsion. It seems to be such a strong compulsion that it inevitably erupts into action, even if only during an annual visit to the boy brothels of Thailand.
“i haven’t seen anything else to change my mind.”
If you ever have the chance, discuss it with a man who suffers from SSAD. He will at first deny it, but if you pursue the matter, and if he hangs around instead of fleeing, you will sooner or later uncover a seduction or molestation in the pre-adult years.
He will probably have rationalized the trauma such that he believes he was already homosexual when it happened, and the perpetrator merely helped him “explore his sexuality.”
If you get to the point that he is asking if he had never allowed the predator to nail him in the keister—or never been raped by the predator, whichever—that he would never have become homosexual, you will see in his face what the Greeks were trying to copy in their masks of Tragedy.
Many different kinds of trauma can induce PTSD. It is the trauma of a molestation or seduction in the pre-adult years that induces SSAD.