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1 posted on 06/15/2011 12:45:02 PM PDT by tobyhill
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If this were Bush the media and Obama would have held impeachment by now.


29 posted on 06/15/2011 1:06:06 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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>>> War Powers Act Does Not Apply to Libya, Obama Argues (Obama claims he’s above the law)

No, Obama did not claim he’s above the law. Because if you do not call it a war, it is not a war war.


31 posted on 06/15/2011 1:06:36 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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35 posted on 06/15/2011 1:08:05 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: tobyhill

Obama is using the United States military and taxpayer money to conduct offensive military hostilities (aka wage war) against a sovereign nation that posed no clear and immediate threat to US national security, under the pretense of humanitarian aid, under the banner of NATO, and has done so in recent weeks in violation of current US law. It’s just that simple.


36 posted on 06/15/2011 1:08:35 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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But the White House argued that the activities of United States military forces in Libya do not amount to full-blown “hostilities” at the level necessary to involve the section of the War Powers Resolution that imposes the deadline.

So we're bombing Libya, just not in a hostile manner.

38 posted on 06/15/2011 1:09:53 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Task 1: Accomplished, Task 2: Hold them Accountable!)
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Either way, because the War Powers Resolution does not include a definition of “hostilities”

Anybody else think this is Obamas “what is IS moment”? It seems every Dem has one....


41 posted on 06/15/2011 1:12:11 PM PDT by marstegreg
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“We are acting lawfully”

“I am not a crook”


43 posted on 06/15/2011 1:15:33 PM PDT by NRPM (We have to come to terms with the fact that governments have made promises they will not keep.)
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Wasn't it thoughtful of Congress, 40 years ago, to exempt Libya for Obama? Too bad they didn't have the same foresight with the Community Reinvestment Act.
46 posted on 06/15/2011 1:18:04 PM PDT by liberalh8ter
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>>> (Obama claims he’s above the law)

History didn’t start with Obama. From Nixon onward no president has agreed the WPA superseded their inherent authority as Commander in Chief.

As I recall some Congressman also tried to take Clinton to court over the same issue regarding Kosovo. The court citing Separation of Powers between the Executive and Congress refused to intervene. Libya is not a good faith war but that’s a separate political issue. Constitutionally Obama as CinC is probably on solid ground.


47 posted on 06/15/2011 1:19:04 PM PDT by tlb
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It was a desperate tactic anyway. Plenty of GOP presidents ignored it.

And to expect the Cryer to do anything is just idiotic.

49 posted on 06/15/2011 1:19:16 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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The War Powers Act isn’t worth a hill of beans if the courts don’t bother with it. The case of Campbell v. Clinton was dismissed for lack of standing even after congress voted down action in Yugoslovia. SCOTUS declined to hear it.


50 posted on 06/15/2011 1:19:24 PM PDT by dajeeps
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This regime views the WPA and the constitution like a screen back door. The more you slam it, the looser it gets.


52 posted on 06/15/2011 1:19:49 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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Since when is the unilateral attack on a sovereign country for the sole purpose of “regime change” anything BUT war?


53 posted on 06/15/2011 1:20:37 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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We are saying the limited nature of this particular mission is not the kind of ‘hostilities’ envisioned by the War Powers Resolution.

FUHK
FURB
FUBO

57 posted on 06/15/2011 1:25:55 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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You silly conservatives just don’t understand, do you.

Democrat bombs are a kinder, and gentler way of killing people and maiming kids than REPUBLICAN BOMBS.

That’s why you won’t see the media covering any Anti-lybian War protests.

After all, It’s not an Illegal War when Killing-While-Democrat!!

s/off


58 posted on 06/15/2011 1:26:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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The War Powers Act ensures that any military action has the consent of the President and Congress.

It ensures that the President ask Congress for authorization prior to any action except in cases where the US is attacked and an immediate response is required.

Libya required the President to ask Congress for authorization first.

In fact, at least Obama could have consulted with Congress prior to hostilities in an effort. He made no such effort and has not reported to Congress since the start of hostitilies.

This is a dangerous precedent being set.


63 posted on 06/15/2011 1:33:14 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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Of course he is above the law, he proves it daily, and the best we get from congress is a little orchestrated whining.

On another note Issa, is said to be really, really, really mad now.


64 posted on 06/15/2011 1:33:58 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Progressivism, do something, or get used to it.)
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Funny stuff, Obama basically making the Impeachment Defense Argument: This doesn’t rise to the level of that.


67 posted on 06/15/2011 1:36:20 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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So in order to conduct unrestrained military operations without the consent of Congress, one simply needs to “outsource” the conflict? Same troops, same munitions, different command structure? Methinks that would get laughed out of court (except maybe in the 9th Circus). Didn’t the _resident rail against that “o” word when it came to military operations?


70 posted on 06/15/2011 1:42:27 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: ‘We own the economy’ June 15, 2011)
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The “War Powers Act” should be called the CYA and avoid my duty Act. Under the constitution, only Congress may declare war. By passing this act they have a patsy to blame if it turns out badly, and the American public doesn't support the military action.

The act is of dubious constitutionality. Congress should just defund the project and/or impeach Obama. It is amazing how many of their duties and powers the Congress abdicated during the 19th century. This Century should bring a return to the Constitution, but it ain't happenin’.

73 posted on 06/15/2011 1:44:38 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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