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Blood On Their Hands: Giving Guns to Criminals Was the Plan All Along
Townhall.com ^ | June 15, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 06/15/2011 11:47:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: cripplecreek

I agree with you, it was to attack the 2nd and shut down lots of gun sellers cause......I figure the sellers of the straw sales they were forced to do would be shut down also cause the government lies. Then go after other sellers cause they are responsible for all the border deaths....ATF etc. departments are all corrupt to the core..


21 posted on 06/15/2011 12:23:14 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Kaslin

The large number of guns sold is the smoking gun. (no pun intended).

If they had really wanted to just trace how the guns were used, only a handful would have been involved.

The fact that the number is in the thousands clearly shows the intent. They wanted a weapon (no pun intended again) to use against against gun owners.

That in fact is what did happen. The media kept talking about U.S. guns being responsible for crime in Mexico. Suddenly the media has almost completely quit pushing that story.

I wonder why?


22 posted on 06/15/2011 12:23:51 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Kaslin

Felony Murder doctrine. Maybe if there were whores involved we’d be hearing about this in the regular media.


23 posted on 06/15/2011 12:25:35 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Travis McGee
Worth repeating:

This scandal is a million times worse than Watergate, and the MSM ignores it.

It's good to be a democrat...

24 posted on 06/15/2011 12:26:01 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 875 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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To: BitWielder1

>>The REAL target: Lawful American gun owners and dealers<<

Wow....just wow!

Is this America?


25 posted on 06/15/2011 12:29:25 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Joe Brower

Of course it’s crystal clear. The problem is that most of the sheeple don’t have a clue what’s going on, and the rest know there’s not much way we can make things change in the present atmosphere.


26 posted on 06/15/2011 12:30:19 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Travis McGee
"This scandal is a million times worse than Watergate, and the MSM ignores it."

Travis, Travis, we peons must surely understand by now, it's not wrong when they do it.

27 posted on 06/15/2011 12:30:48 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: goat granny

I know the legitimate dealers were told to order more when they ran out.


28 posted on 06/15/2011 12:32:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Kaslin
New emails released by House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa show that ATF Director Kenneth Melson was briefed weekly about Operation Fast and Furious and watched a live feed of straw purchasers (who serve as middle men, purchasing guns and giving them to cartel members) in Arizona gun shops from his cozy Washington D.C. office.

This man needs to be up on charges of Capital Murder.

29 posted on 06/15/2011 12:34:39 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Kaslin

Of course it was.It was planned so that they could prove their claims of US guns making thier way to the drug cartels even if that wasn’t true.


30 posted on 06/15/2011 12:36:14 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Travis McGee

As I recall no one died with watergate several people we know of have died due to this...how many we may never know? Obama and Holder have blood on their hands.


31 posted on 06/15/2011 12:38:53 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Kaslin

Do we have information on WHEN this was implemented? Was it hussein’s regime that started this....or before?


32 posted on 06/15/2011 12:51:54 PM PDT by battletank
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To: Joe Brower

Hang ‘em High!!


33 posted on 06/15/2011 1:20:55 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Kaslin

This was NOT an attempt to control the smuggling of guns to the failed nation state of Mexico.

This was an attempt by the Obama junta to get gun control back on the front burner & to energize the party to pass laws to make owning semi auto firearms a major felony and to plant in the minds of the non gun owning public that gun owners are the moral equivalent of cartel gun men.

Did the bastards in Washington D.C. know that people were gonna die ? Absolutely they are known to have basically bragged about what the effects of the operation were in Mexico & gloating about it . HEADS NEED TO ROLL !!!

Sadly however the guilty will walk because they are Federal LEO’s.


34 posted on 06/15/2011 1:29:48 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: JPG

Not yet & I doubt that it will simply because the folks in Washington D.C. will never be held accountable either in this country or Mexico . Americans have been murdered with the able assistance of federal law enforcement & the folks involved will get away with it .


35 posted on 06/15/2011 1:33:13 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Kaslin

bfl


36 posted on 06/15/2011 2:09:44 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: null and void
“This scandal is a million times worse than Watergate, and the MSM ignores it.”

Anytime a Weinergate type scandal exists, it means that something is probably happening to contribute to the destruction of America. Just like Clinton/Monica scandal helped hide the selling out to China.

37 posted on 06/15/2011 2:41:19 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Joe Brower
As another FReeper pointed out on another thread yesterday...they were able, in record time, to provide Schumer, Feinstein and Whitehouse all the BS they required for their newly-published report...
I'll blow my own horn on that.

Once guns flow back into Mexico, they are no longer within the jurisdiction of the United States, leaving the government without any authority to prosecute anyone for any crime.
Yet throughout all of this the administration says this was allowed to happen so they could get at cartel kingpins.
This is what bugs me the most in all of this. This is all supposed to go back to the Merida Initiative and Fast and Furious seems to have been part of a new process launched by President Obama and President Calderon in August 2009 given the timelines.

So where does the BATF claim it gets its legal authority (which law) to arrest any "cartel kingpin" in Mexico as they claim their ultimate goal was?
And "who knew what and when" becomes glaring when you know that ...Operation Fast and Furious, started...in the fall of 2009.
And yet everybody is Sgt. Schultz...they know nothing.
No way is this passing the smell test.

That might not be the most well written thing I've ever replied with and I hope you get my gist.

38 posted on 06/15/2011 3:24:17 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bicyclerepair

Yep, they are arming the thugs and disarming us. IT was not an experiment, it was a another pilot test for a wider program of extermination of the free in America.


39 posted on 06/15/2011 3:28:28 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: penelopesire

Many large banks make tons and tons of money from drug cartels, laundering it. And they in turn “donate” money to politicians. That’s why they like the phony drug war that doesn’t stop drugs, but keeps the prices nice and high.


40 posted on 06/15/2011 3:34:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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