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To: truth_seeker
The earliest group from Sweden came in the 1600s.

To Pennsyvania (Philadephia area) and Delaware. Of course they changed their language within a couple of years because first they were conquered by the Dutch and then by the english. The English caused them all to change their names and naming system. That was a pretty big change.

8 posted on 06/13/2011 1:24:29 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“To Pennsyvania (Philadephia area) and Delaware. Of course they changed their language within a couple of years because first they were conquered by the Dutch and then by the english. The English caused them all to change their names and naming system. That was a pretty big change.”

That may have been so for Pennsylvanie and Delaware, and the 1600s contingent.

However more widely for Sweden and the Minnesota contingent (far bigger) the fade out of patronymic naming began in the late 1800s, both in America and in Sweden.

My greatgrandfather, born 1845 was the last generation with patronymic surname.

His sons and daughters kept his surname, instead of the old tradition.


10 posted on 06/13/2011 1:31:18 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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If I remember right, that first wave of Swedish survived into the 1750s in some rural areas of South Jersey. But it was already well on the way out. I tried to find some vestiges of it in the dialect of the Delaware Valley but didn’t really turn up much. Dutch had a more lasting impact.


23 posted on 06/13/2011 2:37:48 PM PDT by Claud
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The earliest group from Sweden came in the 1600s. To Pennsylvania (Philadephia area) and Delaware.

Yes, and my 13th-generation grandfather on my mother's side was among those first Swedish settlers who came over on the Kalmar Nyckel around 1640. In fact, he was one of the founders of the New Sweden colony: Peter Gunnarsson Rambo. (Yes, the Rambo movie character is named after him.)

32 posted on 06/13/2011 3:10:42 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (My maternal grandmother was Grace Rambo Clark.)
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