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Irresponsible Gun Owner of the Day: Detective Bret Starnes
The Truth About Guns ^ | June 11, 2011 | Daniel Zimmerman

Posted on 06/11/2011 6:31:18 PM PDT by neverdem

Posted on by Daniel Zimmerman

Remember, leave guns to the experts. Which means the police and the military. It's just too dangerous to have regular citizens running around with guns. Oh. Wait… (sigh) Another abysmal example of gun handling by a member of the law enforcement community. This time, it's 12-year Denver PD veteran Detective Bret Starnes . . .

columbinecourier.com reports that Det. Starnes had been getting in some range time (yes!) when his pistol jammed. So he returned home to pick up another heater.

Starnes tested the second gun in his master bathroom, "dry-firing" it without ammunition, the report states. He later loaded a 17-round magazine into the gun but said he forgot it contained live rounds when he pulled the trigger again, hitting his left hand. The bullet apparently went through a bathroom mirror but did not go through the wall.

It seems that nature called and Starnes was playing with his gun while on the throne. Fortunately, his wife and children who were in the next room weren't hurt, too.

Never mind the extreme fail displayed by playing with your gun in the can. Have you ever pulled the trigger on a gun – loaded or not – with your hand in front of it? Me neither. Which begs the question, why the hell would you?

As the good detective should have learned, there are four pretty simple rules to firearm safety.

1-Every gun is always loaded
2-Never point a gun at something you're not willing to destroy
3-Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot
4-Know your target and what's behind it

You have to break a minimum of two rules for something bad to happen. Starnes managed to violate three of them. Maybe he’ll bone up on the rules now.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; bretstarnes; starnes
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1 posted on 06/11/2011 6:31:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: george76; jan in Colorado; colorado tanker; coloradan; dljordan; Colorado Buckeye; GraceG; ...
BANG! I hope they checked numnut's urine for drugs.
2 posted on 06/11/2011 6:37:09 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Bah! rules are for the little people. BANG,OW!


3 posted on 06/11/2011 6:38:15 PM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: neverdem
OK, so it sounds like the d00fus was on the throne and tried to “squeeze one off” while reaching for the TP.
4 posted on 06/11/2011 6:40:12 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: neverdem
OK, so it sounds like the d00fus was on the throne and tried to “squeeze one off” while reaching for the TP.
5 posted on 06/11/2011 6:40:12 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Zimmerman

"You have to break a minimum of two rules for something bad to happen"

Oh?


6 posted on 06/11/2011 6:41:22 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: neverdem

Obviously NOT a .45 .


7 posted on 06/11/2011 6:41:35 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem

>Have you ever pulled the trigger on a gun – loaded or not – with your hand in front of it?<

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The guy is lucky — he could’ve been looking inside the barrel while pulling the trigger.


8 posted on 06/11/2011 6:42:26 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: neverdem
Ok, something wrong with this story. Merely putting the magazine in the gun won't chamber a round. He had to have jacked the slide back in order to get one into the chamber and he is claiming he forgot he did that?

Maybe he was trying to commit suicide and he thought his brains were in his hand, or he could have just missed.

9 posted on 06/11/2011 6:43:56 PM PDT by calex59
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To: neverdem
Have you ever pulled the trigger on a gun – loaded or not – with your hand in front of it? Me neither. Which begs the question, why the hell would you?

He must've been playing good-cop-bad-cop, and his left hand was the bad cop.

10 posted on 06/11/2011 6:44:16 PM PDT by LibWhacker (I)
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To: neverdem
Ok, something wrong with this story. Merely putting the magazine in the gun won't chamber a round. He had to have jacked the slide back in order to get one into the chamber and he is claiming he forgot he did that? It is possible he had the slide locked back when he put the mag in, then when he released the slide it would chamber a round. Either way he is an idiot.

Maybe he was trying to commit suicide and he thought his brains were in his hand, or he could have just missed.

11 posted on 06/11/2011 6:45:03 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Uh-oh, double post, but one more sentence in the second one:) Sorry about that.


12 posted on 06/11/2011 6:50:31 PM PDT by calex59
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To: neverdem

Maybe an IQ test too while they’re at it....


13 posted on 06/11/2011 6:56:54 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Cheapskate

Cops are some of the stupidest people when it comes to firearms. The scary part is they think they are the smartest people in the room regarding guns, and most of them can’t hit the broadside of a barn.


14 posted on 06/11/2011 6:58:49 PM PDT by Roklok
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To: calex59

perhaps his wife found out he was having an affair and he offed the “other woman”

teeman


15 posted on 06/11/2011 7:24:11 PM PDT by teeman8r (armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: calex59

Maybe he had a fight with his lover (left hand).


16 posted on 06/11/2011 7:24:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: neverdem

Badges are “professionals” and as such are the only one’s who can be trusted with your safety.

Yeah. RIght. Next!

Nothing a badge can do for me, that I can’t do better, quicker and safer and without endangering the neighbors dogs or kids with fear crazed, magazine emptying random gunfire.


17 posted on 06/11/2011 7:38:21 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: neverdem
"So he returned home to pick up another heater."

Who writes this crap?

18 posted on 06/11/2011 7:48:43 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: neverdem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bci283mfNs
I’ve seen preachers banging on their drums, and
I’ve seen policemen playing with their guns ...

Rule# 5. The Fortress of Solitude is for meditation, not dry-firing.


19 posted on 06/11/2011 7:49:38 PM PDT by tumblindice (America: Mexico's Dept. of Health, Education and Welfare)
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To: neverdem
I don't quite understand how he maintains his firearms. One jammed in the middle of the range time (it also could have been when a criminal is about to stab him.) Another was apparently in a similarly bad condition, to the extent that the officer wasn't sure if the firing pin is still moving!
20 posted on 06/11/2011 8:04:17 PM PDT by Greysard
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