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To: ZULU

Disagree.

Ronald Reagan was president of a union. He voted to raise taxes. He granted illegals amnesty.

You take these missteps out of context, and Reagan sounds like Barney Frank.

Christie is articulate, and much more important is that he’s EFFECTIVE. He’s getting things done, even in New Jersey.

On the mosque issue, he’s right - that’s Manhattan, not New Jersey - why be stupid and spend political capital on a pronouncement that’s not going to get him anything at all?

Here’s the very last, and most important, quality Christie has - he is the most effective communicator in politics, and he’s one of us.

He took on the public sector unions - in NJ, mind you - and won. I’m surprised Tony Soprano hasn’t taken him on a test drive of a boat he wants to buy.

Whatever sets back the agenda of statism, I’m for it. I don’t care where it comes from anymore. Newt Gingrich got conservatism back in the door, and then blew it. He still gets credit for 1994 in my opinion, even though I can’t stand the guy today.

I just hope, in the end, he didn’t do as much to set back conservatism as he did to promote it.

Christie’s getting a free ride on the Obamacare thing right now - he’s got better things for his AG to do, and its before SCOTUS right now. They’ll F it up, as they are wont to do, but whether the NJ AG was signed on or not isn’t going to change Steven’s, Breyer’s, Ginsburg’s vote.

In the end, SCOTUS put a stop to Rockefeller in the 40’s, and they should have. They respect precedent, so there really isn’t much for SCOTUS to do here but uphold the lower court decision and move on. It’s pretty clear that making people buy insurance isn’t constitutional.

It doesn’t mean they’ll do the right thing.

Has any other governor pulled the plug on PBS in their state yet? There are states much redder than NJ that should have by now. Why was he first?


43 posted on 06/09/2011 9:09:53 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: RinaseaofDs

“Christie is articulate, and much more important is that he’s EFFECTIVE. He’s getting things done, even in New Jersey.”

He appears to be taking steps to rectify New Jersey’s fiscal mess. I give him that and its laudable.

“On the mosque issue, he’s right - that’s Manhattan, not New Jersey - why be stupid and spend political capital on a pronouncement that’s not going to get him anything at all?”

TOTALLY wrong! The 911 attack was of INTERNATIONAL import. People from EVERYTHWERE commented. A LOT of the vicims were from New Jersey. It was an ATTACK on our basic concept of governance by a hostile, international conspiracy of theocratic maniacs. Local issue? Ridiculous. That statement exmplified Christie’s not-ready-for-time status.

“Here’s the very last, and most important, quality Christie has - he is the most effective communicator in politics, and he’s one of us.”

He is an effective commicator - at times. At other times he comes across as a loud, crass bully. If he presented himelf at times in a more measured fashion he would draw even more support for his efforts to tame the Union Civil Service Beasts. Such an approach would draw a stark comparison between him and them. He needn’t descend at times to their level.

“Whatever sets back the agenda of statism, I’m for it.”

Me too. But that doesn’t automatically mean I have to support every engine that does it for higher office.

“Christie’s getting a free ride on the Obamacare thing right now - he’s got better things for his AG to do, and its before SCOTUS right now. They’ll F it up, as they are wont to do, but whether the NJ AG was signed on or not isn’t going to change Steven’s, Breyer’s, Ginsburg’s vote.”

I have heard his explanations and I don’t agree with them. The more states on the bandwagon, the harder it will be for SCOTUS to back Obama. As for more important things to do, I trut Ms. Dow can walk and chew gum at the same time. Sorry his explanations don’t hold water.

“It’s pretty clear that making people buy insurance isn’t constitutional.”

There are four idiots on SCOTUS who don’t feel they need a Constitution, four great men who realize we do, and one swing judge. Logic and the Constitution don’t always come first. Look at the eminent domain descision.

“Has any other governor pulled the plug on PBS in their state yet? There are states much redder than NJ that should have by now. Why was he first?”

You can’t make a judgement on one issue. I praise Christie here as I do when he is right and slam him when he is wrong.

He’s the best governor New Jersey has had since Meyner - and while that says a lot for New Jersey, it doesn’t make him fit for President.


50 posted on 06/09/2011 9:41:39 AM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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