Iran's Nukes: Apocalypse Soon?

IBD Editorials ^ | June 8, 2011 | Staff

[Kaslin]

Terror: Iran is speeding up its nuclear materials production and moving it underground amid reports that the regime is eight weeks from atomic bomb capability. Doomsday, anyone?

Tehran announced Wednesday that it will triple its production of high-grade uranium and relocate enrichment operations underground.

This comes just days after the Rand Corp. determined that the Islamofascist government is less than two months from being able to build a nuclear explosive, and that only an occupation force — not just airstrikes — can stop it.

On Friday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeated his demand that Israel go away. "As long as the Zionist regime exists, if only on a small piece of land in Palestine, the region will not see tranquility," he declared at the grave of the Ayatollah Khomeini.

Year after year, the American people have made it clear they view a nuclear Iran as an unacceptable risk, and the most recent results of the IBD/TIPP Poll, shown above, found that those sentiments remain strong.

Yet the poll also shows a loss of confidence in our government's ability to prevent this terrorist-sponsoring state from joining the nuclear family.

In the years during which Iran has moved toward weapons of mass destruction, the free nations have irresponsibly played a kind of nuclear "hot potato," expecting someone else — usually Israel — to stop Tehran. But Israel itself is not immune to the trigger shyness: Last month, ex-Mossad chief Meir Dagan said an Israeli attack on Iran would be a "stupid thing."

[Elendur]

i second that !!! ...don’t need to take out all of Mecca. ONLY the kaada (black meteorite) needs to be destroyed.

and i agree about Obama. strange how after 40 years since he was in Indonesia muslim school, he was still able to recite the Muslim prayers perfectly, in a flawless accent. (according to the TIMES!) ...and that prayer, contains the shahada... the Muslim profession of faith “there is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his messenger”. saying that, makes you a muslim according to muslims.

[Elendur]

..long list of links for evidence again, anyone?
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i’d be interested in reading some of them. both about Iran, and about Rice.

...that’s one of my main reasons for being on FR... to learn from people who have experience and knowledge i don’t.

...the only areas i claim good knowledge, is about Islam and the “global warming” hoax. every day here, i am surprised by what i learn here...

[familyop]

Bush on Israel: Heartburn for All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844641/posts

President Abbas asks Congress help to release PNA funds withheld by Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844647/posts

Bush releases money to Abbas
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844646/posts

Rice: Better to have Hamas in power than in streets
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1733397/posts

Rice: Palestinians deserve to live free of ‘occupation’[at an event of pro-Palestinian group]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1717847/posts

US Supplies Fatah With Arms, Rice Decries “Occupation”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718348/posts

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts

Disciples of Christ to Israel: Drop dead
http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-religion/1458942/posts

U.S. Presbyterians target five firms with Israel links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458765/posts

The Church Stares Into the Abyss (The dhimmitude of the Church of England)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1435084/posts

(Anti-Semitic) Anglican group urges Israel sanctions
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430566/posts

Anglicans Call for Sanction on Investment in Israel to Uphold Justice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430772/posts

THE VATICAN AND THE STANDOFF AT THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp515.htm

Two United Methodist gatherings urge selective divestment from Israel (official anti-Israel United Methodist Website)
http://www.umc.org/site/c.gjJTJbMUIuE/b.886089/k.A105/Two_United_Methodist_gatherings_urge_selective_divestment_from_Israel.htm

world council of churches (WCC)
church & ecumenical relations
http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/what/ecumenical/index-e.html
"Among those churches which are not members of the WCC, the most notable is the Roman Catholic Church (RCC). Since 1965 a Joint Working Group (JWG), co-sponsored by the WCC and the RCC, has met regularly to discuss issues of common interest and promote cooperation. The group meets annually. One of the church and ecumenical relations staff members serves as co-secretary for the JWG and helps to coordinate contact between the Council and the dicasteries of the Vatican through the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. [And] . . . Though the Roman Catholic Church is not a member of the WCC, it is a full member of the Faith & Order Commission. The RCC also serves the team on Mission & Evangelism in a consultative capacity."

President Bush Calls for New Palestinian Leadership
The Rose Garden
June 24, 2002
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020624-3.html
"The United States, the international donor community and the World Bank stand ready to work with Palestinians on a major project of economic reform and development. The United States, the EU, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund are willing to oversee reforms in Palestinian finances, encouraging transparency and independent auditing."

Quartet Joint Statement
Summary
July 16, 2002: Text of a joint statement issued by the "Quartet" (United Nations, Russian Federation, the United States and the European Union) following their meeting in New York
[Document behind the link.]
http://europa-eu-un.org/articles/sk/article_1489_sk.htm
"The new international Task Force on Reform, which is comprised of representatives of the U.S., EU, UN Secretary General, Russia, Japan, Norway, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, and which works under the auspices of the Quartet, will strive to develop and implement a comprehensive action plan for reform."

...little more background material:

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts
February 1, 2005

Bush and Sharon disagree over Israel's future
Wednesday June 27, 2001
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,513410,00.html

Sharon presses Putin to drop UN resolution on road map
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013908/posts
4 November 2003

Commencement Address at Boston College (Secretary Condoleezza Rice, Boston, Massachusetts, May 22, 2006. US Department of State)

Excerpts:

As a student of a Catholic high school, the Sisters of Loretta taught me, I am pleased to be at an institution of higher education with such strong and celebrated Catholic and Jesuit traditions . . . You see, I got my Master's Degree at Notre Dame. (Boos.) I acquired a passion for the fighting Irish . . . and my family has been college educated and Presbyterian ever since. (Laughter and applause.) . . . I wandered into a course on international politics taught by a Czech refugee who specialized in Soviet studies, a man who had a daughter by the name of Madeleine Albright. With that one class, I was hooked. I discovered that my passion was Russia and all things Russian.

[familyop]

For posts on Iran, go to

https://ssl.scroogle.org/

and enter the keyword string:

iran site:freerepublic.com

and work your way back. Enter a year before the rest of the keyword string to try to get posts from a particular year.

[familyop]

Yes. Thank you for looking. I’m glad that Web page still exists. One point of argument against Israel a few years ago was the claim that Israel wanted to cease to exist, and that President Bush was only grudgingly agreeing.

[2001convSVT]

I think that Israel will wait until Iran successfully performs an underground test before initiating military action.

[Elendur]

awesome. thank you Sir.
(that will keep me busy for awhile!)

[Elendur]

Wow! Rice said the same thing as Obama, 6 YEARS ago !!!

“The Road Map plan calls for a “viable” - i.e., territorially-contiguous - Arab state in Judea, Samaria and Gaza. Rice, as well, emphasized this point to Weisglass. This means that Gaza must be connected with a land-line to Judea, effectively dividing Israel in half, north and south of the Gaza-Hevron connection.”

[Elendur]

I think that Israel will wait until Iran successfully performs an underground test before initiating military action.
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why would they waste their precious tiny amount on an underground test?
...instead of testing it on a ship in NY or Tel Aviv harbor?

[2001convSVT]

The same reason why we did the Trinity test in July of 45. They must be sure it works before mass producing the design. The North Koreans are planing another test, it could be an Iranian design, the last test they did were in the 2 to 4 it range. A plutonium design should be in the 17 to 20 kt range.

[Elendur]

They must be sure it works before mass producing the design.
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respectfully, ...and?

...a test is a test. there is no benefit for them to do it underground, as opposed to the cargo hold of ship offshore,
or even in the back of a 18 wheeler.

sure, there are dangers and logistical problems, but with the limiting factor now being the supply of fissionable material...

if it fails to detonate, they lose nothing. if it does, they still have their data, AND they kill a lot of Jews, which is their “prime directive”.

[Elendur]

“Road Map” to Armageddon

http://www.thebereancall.org/node/2589
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thank you Sir, that is an EXCELLENT article. great summary.

...it covers MANY aspects, in history, religion, etc.

i would only add a few minor quibbles.
1) they repeatedly speak of the word of Mohammad being unchangable. incorrect.
the Quran is the eternal unchanging unchangable word of ALLAH. (Mohammad was only the messenger, much as PROPHET Joseph Smith was give the power to translate, by God.)

2) they went straight from ancient history to current, ignoring the Balfour declaration, and a binding international agreement to Create a much larger Israel than today.
here, just over 2:00 in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gUygq_RtgQ

3) they also omitted the very real miracle predicted in the Bible, that Israel would be recreated “in a single day”.
It is amazing enough, for an ancient Nation to be recreated. Poland did it. but, the UN DID do it, in a single day. This should get the attention even of an atheist...

rest of the article was great, top notch. i wish you would post it by itself as an article. thanks !