Posted on 06/08/2011 8:57:05 AM PDT by Qbert
Former presidential adviser Karl Rove says a Washington Post-ABC News poll that shows President Barack Obama’s numbers slipping does not bode well for his 2012 re-election chances.
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Rove said he is surprised that Obama “is at this point behind a Republican candidate for president among registered voters and . . . among people who are not anywhere near as well known as the president. The president is basically 50 percent against all the likely Republican first-tier candidates. That’s not a good place for the president to be.
“Who knows who Tim Pawlenty is? Not that many people. Who knows who John Huntsman Jr. is not that many people,” Rove said. “And for the president to be stuck . . . three years into the term in office . . . at 50 percent is not a good sign.”
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what?
Why is ROVE a RINO sellout now?
lol
did I miss something?
He may not understand what he is saying, but that is what he is saying.
Yelling....."Rove, just STFU and disappear!"
Yeah I think you missed most of this Thread and Free Republic for quite some time.
“The guy says something you want to hear and you bash him ? ....remind me again who is on what side?”
Wha?...
It’s not about “what I want to hear”. It’s the about fact that you could ask ten random people on the street, and 6-7 of them would tell you the answer in a heartbeat ... and the “genius’ is just figuring this out now (while being ultra-proud of himself, of course), and is somehow surprised at the result at the same time.
And he’s supposedly the great “expert” on these matters.
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He doesn't hold elected office... He is a partisan... his only goal is to get Republicans elected, his personal views (whatever they are) don't matter one wit.
Whoever said you can only be a RINO if you are a politician?
Rove ONLY goal is to get Republicans elected because he says it? LOL! Thanks for the laugh.
60%-70% of the public would know where Obama stands today in the polls in relation to GOP candidates?
Uh...no I really don't think so.
Correct...and I'm glad he's saying it.
Statements like this help to lower morale among the left for one thing and I think it's ridiculous that the majority of the posters hear bash Rove for saying it.
Oops. That’s “posters here” not “hear”.
No, 60-70% of the public could tell you why Obozo has low poll numbers.
His policies are a colossal failure. (Yet this is somehow surprising to Rove.)
You mean GOP establishment types that usually turn out to be RINOs. Upstarts need not apply.
No, Rove speaks all the time about why Obama's policies will fail.
Read it again. That is NOT why Rove says he is surprised even though another poster already pointed it out to you.
Why Karl? The man is an idiot, a one man wrecking ball smashing up the country. Everything he touches turns to shit.
His poll numbers are too high. Shows you how many lazy leeches there are out there.
He is looking at the polls, and as of right now... the polls are telling him who would be our strongest choice and who would be our weakest.
That doesn't make him a RINO, it makes him a “partisan” he doesn't CARE who wins ... as long as they have a “R” after their name!!! get it?
If the polls were showing Palin up by 10 ... He would be waving the Palin banner. Don't try and make Rove into something he isn't and never was.
He is a partisan, pure and simple, not a conservative champion.
“Read it again”. Gee, it seems to say what I thought it did the first time...:
“Rove said he is surprised that Obama “is at this point behind a Republican candidate for president among registered voters and . . . among people who are not anywhere near as well known as the president...”
Why is this so surprising?
His policies are a colossal failure.
Now you say this is the reason:
Rove said he is surprised that Obama “is at this point behind a Republican candidate
Good. The second one is accurate.
I'm also somewhat surprised that Obama is running behind even "no-name candidates" at this point as were many on FR when they saw the news the other day.
Gratifying, but surprising. And I hope the trend continues.
“The first time this is why you said Rove was surprised...Now you say this is the reason...”
—I consider both “reasons” to be part of the same thing. But I’ll confess: the contorted thinking of RINOs is difficult for me to comprehend at times.
“I’m also somewhat surprised that Obama is running behind even “no-name candidates” at this point as were many on FR when they saw the news the other day.”
—I’m not surprised at all. The only way it would be surprising in all honesty, is if Obama’s “personal likeability” were assumed to still give him an edge over opponents (and early on in his presidency it certainly did with some moderates). But at this point in his presidency, that ain’t gonna put food on the table, and somebody- anybody reasonable enough- offering something else will start to look very appealing.
(But I won’t be surprised at all if the “no-name” candidate turns out to *have a name* for Rove: Jon Huntsman.)
You may...but what Rove said was very clear and not convoluted at all. The "policies" were not part of his statement so there's no reason to think his thinking was contorted. You were the one confused by that, not Rove.
That's good that you were not surprised. I was...not dramatically but mildly so. I didn't think a no-name would be pulling ahead of Obama so soon. I suspect that there will still be some give-and-take but I won't be surprised at this point either if this poll is a permanent dynamic since it seems like certain elements of the media may be deserting him.
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