Posted on 06/06/2011 6:28:18 PM PDT by RobinMasters
I agree. So now that you accept they did not travel to Kenya in 1961, what's your basis for doubting Obama Jr. was born in Hawaii?
I don't believe you. Link please.
Check your facts before accusing someone of lying:
http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=71462e6edb79c23595f73fe38&id=9d8904b9d5
Dude, as an Obama employee, this may be YOUR full time job, but I can only do this stuff in my spare time. Even so, I routinely get the better of you.
They have have EXPLICITLY verified that the long-form Obama recently released came from the state and is a true copy of the original:
"http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=71462e6edb79c23595f73fe38&id=9d8904b9d5"
Dude, I hate to Embarrass you like this, but your link only says that Hawaii gave *HIM* a "certified" copy. It doesn't say that he showed *US* a certified copy. Given what a Liar he is, it should shock no one that what he got from Hawaii isn't what he posted online as an Image file.
Hawaii didn't give HIM an image file. They gave HIM a paper document. Whatever he has posted online is NOT a paper document. It is some sort of screwed up image file. Hawaii most certainly did NOT certify that screwed up Image file, and we only have Obama's word (worth nothing) that what he posted even RESEMBLES what Hawaii gave his lawyer.
They did meet, but people say it was a couple of months too far apart to meet his birthday.
They did? Where's the evidence? Do you mean they could have met?
I'm not even sure that's true, but if you've got evidence that they did meet you could get a lot for it.
How the hell is he supposed to post a paper document online? Are you really too stupid to understand that any paper document must first be scanned and converted into an image file before being posted?
As the the paper document, he showed a physical copy to reporters, who attested to the fact that it is signed, sealed and certified.
Here you go:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/22/confirmed-stanley-ann-dunham-began-studies-in-september-1961-not-august/
The State does NOT certify that the contents are true. At BEST the state certifies that it COULD BE a copy of their record. They don't even certify that their RECORD is true. That's the problem. No one is certifying that ANYTHING is a "true and correct copy of the Original record." You may buy this con-man like dodging, but no one else does.
No one cares what an Amended record says.
If it were amended, it would say it is amended. But it doesn't say that, so we can conclude it's not amended.
Funny, MINE doesn't say it's amended, and I know full well that it's Amended. (I have a copy of My original, and so does my sister who was ALSO adopted.) Why would Obama's certificate say that it's Amended? The whole Idea of AMENDING a birth certificate is to NOT LET ANYONE KNOW that the child wasn't really born to those parents.
We can conclude NOTHING about an Image file from the Obama White House. We do not KNOW that it is a copy of What Hawaii sent him, and even if it were, we don't Know that Hawaii even produced an ORIGINAL record. An Amended certificate just regurgitates the lies that were put upon it when it was created by a Judge.
Let me get you in front of a Jury and I will turn you into a stammering fool.
Common law marriage. Identifying someone as your Husband enough times may constitute a common law marriage. (It is known that Stanley repeatedly identified herself as Mrs. Barack Obama.) Also, A divorce allows a birth certificate to be amended. Funny thing is, the Hawaiian divorce records for Stanley Ann Obama list 14 documents. They will only release 13 of those documents. That 14th document they refuse to release. It is likely the Judge's order Amending Barry's birth certificate.
Perhaps someday you may learn enough about the law to understand this stuff.
Second of all, who cares whether he's a bastard? Why would anyone bother trying to cover that up? Hello: it's the year 2011, not 1011.
Barry cares. It would make him an inferior person in his own mind. So would a LOT of voters. The Stigma of being an unwanted illegitimate wouldn't go over so well with the voters, even today.
"That it is not an absolute is demonstrated by the fact that even Fourteenth Amendment citizenship by naturalization, when unlawfully procured, may be set aside."
http://supreme.justia.com/us/401/815/case.html
All I had time to find. Research the rest yourself at the link provided. Bye till tomorrow.
Just because you are intellectually bankrupt doesn’t mean there wasn’t a reason for a confused and irrational communist to travel to Kenya alone.
Permutations of possibilities are plentiful.
There is nothing there saying that the material posted to www.whitehouse.gov is legit.
Please stop posting lies.
PROVES? Not really. A legally filed marriage certificate would prove that.
Fake 'divorces' are a common method to 'create' facts that did not happen. A common illegal immigrant move.
Obama senior obviously claimed a marriage in August 1961 in his INS form. But he did not claim the child supposedly born only 27 days earlier. Why one and no the other? Why was Obama II denied by his supposed father only 27 days after birth? Odd for a loving father (as portrayed in the fantasy books of Obama). Very odd indeed for a supposedly committed husband and father.
Maybe it was a 'common law' marriage, maybe a 'tribal marriage'. But like the birth certificate, there is no sign of a valid marriage certificate. Maybe someone will photoshop one soon!
Here’s one for you Al,
Frank Marshall Davis, father, and Madelyn Payne Dunham (grandma) mother?????????????? Stanley and Barry were brother and sister.
SJB
Yes, little is "known" for certain about him. Most of the records about him are forged or disputed.
Ockham's Razor. Suggests finding an explanation with the smallest number of assumptions to explain an question. That will be difficult with what is known about his past.
SAD’s grandfather may have paid or someone else like Frank. Or travel funds may have been available from some form of scholarship he reportedly had landed.T his is not as difficut an obstacle as you make it out to be.
Who paid the flight to Seattle?
Barak Sr went through no trouble at all in getting the divorce. He was 5000 miles away from the courthouse and did not even sign the divorce papers which were allegedly mailed to him.
Please stop posting lies to FreeRepublic.com.
So do you honestly believe a court would grant a divorce without a valid marriage certificate being presented? Come on. This is silly.
Fake 'divorces' are a common method to 'create' facts that did not happen.
Bull.
Why was Obama II denied by his supposed father only 27 days after birth? Odd for a loving father (as portrayed in the fantasy books of Obama). Very odd indeed for a supposedly committed husband and father.
Neither Obama Jr. nor anyone ever claimed Obama Sr. was a committed husband and father. That is most certainly NOT how he's portrayed in Obama Jr.'s books. Obama Sr. was an obvious deadbeat who walked out on his son, and no one denies it.
Maybe it was a 'common law' marriage
The divorce decree specifies a date of marriage, so it obviously could not have been common law. If it were just a non-binding Tribal ceremony there would be no need for a divorce.
No, but Stanely Anne Dunham obviously did. Why would she bother if she hadn't been married in the first place?
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