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Documents show marriage of Obama's parents a sham
WND ^ | June 06, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/06/2011 6:28:18 PM PDT by RobinMasters

The recently released immigration file for Barack Obama Sr. indicates the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service had doubts he and Obama's mother were married.

While Ann Dunham may have sought Obama Sr. as her husband and the father of her child, the record suggests the two never lived together as a married couple.

As WND reported, there's no record of Ann Dunham's whereabouts during the last six months of her pregnancy.

Moreover, within weeks of the baby's birth, Dunham left Honolulu with her infant son and traveled to Seattle, where she enrolled in night courses at the University of Washington. She did not return to Honolulu until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in September 1962 to attend graduate courses at Harvard.

The INS file shows that Barack Obama Sr. was not faithful to Dunham, even when the two were in Hawaii at the same time.

Instead, the documentation supports the conclusion that Obama Sr. and Dunham took part in a sham marriage that the Kenyan student thought might help him extend his visa and remain in the United States to continue his education.

Economic necessity and his desire to complete his studies as soon as possible forced Obama Sr. to remain in Honolulu during the summer months, both to take summer classes and to work part-time.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; hopespringseternal; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; thistimeforsure
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To: Elendur
another thing about the LFBC. those same State Dept. documents, show that Obama Sr was officially age 27 in 1961, NOT 25, as on the LFBC. WHY ?

...only years LATER, did he subtract 2 years from his age. Which a forger wouldn’t have known. so would have put 25 on a forged document. (OR, SAD didn’t even know the correct age, of the bigamist she married... ? ...either way... it’s worth an investigation.)

A simpler explanation is that Barack Sr., knowing that the baby was not his, didn't bother showing up for the birth. Either Stanley Ann, or Madelyn filled out the birth certificate application.

161 posted on 06/07/2011 2:31:31 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: TennesseeGirl

At this point, until people are subpoenaed, or more behind the scenes investigation is made public, there is so much of the “story” that is just now known. And much that is “known” is just not so.

And is there any record of her being on Food Stamps or is it hearsay or in his book or statements? Unless there are official records of it, it’s another piece of “up for grabs”!


162 posted on 06/07/2011 2:34:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: curiosity
"As the US Supreme court ruled over 100 years ago, having a citizen father is not necessary for natural born citizenship, provided the child is born in the USA..."
 
Before you dismiss me as a "birther" (that term means different things to different people), I don't believe at least half of everything that has been said on this entire matter.  What I am interested in, though, are the facts so I can make up my own mind as to the truth of the matter and filter out all the nonsense surrounding it.
 
Curiously, this is the first time I've seen a post that indicated a definitive ruling has been made by the USSC concerning this matter.
 
I would appreciate it if you would cite the USSC ruling to which you refer in your post.  Thank you.

163 posted on 06/07/2011 2:39:43 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: FARS
Not self-exclusive. Stated more accurately, within days of her baby son being born in Kenya, she was on a flight and returned to Hawaii and within weeks flew to Seattle.

Time to knock this theory in the head. WND has a newspaper clipping from 1960 showing Barack Obama Sr. working in Hawaii during the summer of 1960, because he couldn't afford to live in Hawaii. How is he going to pay for round trip Airplane tickets for the both of them for the following year?

People, please stop with the Kenya theory.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=308229

164 posted on 06/07/2011 2:43:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: little jeremiah
"food stamps"

Guess you'll have to find out the author's sources (David Remnick).

165 posted on 06/07/2011 2:45:21 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: curiosity
This is silly. Obama Sr. didn't need to marry a US citizen to continue his studies in the USA. He was part of a special program for African students.

The evidence is much more indicative of a shotgun marriage that didn't work out than it is a sham marraige.

The Evidence is against you. Look at Barack Sr.'s Immigration file. He GOT deported because they didn't believe he was really married to an American.

166 posted on 06/07/2011 2:56:49 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity
Then why would he marry her? Show that he did.
167 posted on 06/07/2011 3:03:51 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: curiosity
First of all, he would have been about a month old, not weeks old. Classes began at the University of Washington on Sept. 19, not August 19th, in 1961. The 8/19 start date that is on SAD's transcript has been verified by the university as being a typographical error. Some clerk typed an "8" instead of a "9" for the month.

Prove this. Link please.

Second of all, there's nothing unusual about a mother taking a one-month old baby on a 6 hour flight. It happens all the time.

Was there Jet Service between Hawaii and Seattle, or was it a prop driven plane? I know that BOAC HAD jets, but I don't know if they used them on the Hawaii-Mainland route. Do you? Also do you know if they would have allowed such a small passenger? If so, please provide a link.

The state of Hawaii says it is authentic. I take their word over Corsi's.

The state of Hawaii (Really just the bureaucrats currently in charge there.) won't certify it as ORIGINAL. No one cares what an Amended record says. The ORIGINAL is the only one that hasn't been tampered with, and they won't certify anything as ORIGINAL.

I would think that for the office of President, we could ignore the childish games of uncooperative bureaucrats. Some State election official (other than Hawaii) should subpoena an ORIGINAL document before allowing him on the ballot, which is legal under Hawaiian law.

168 posted on 06/07/2011 3:07:37 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity
Not unless it was annulled by a court. A marriage is presumed valid until proven otherwise. Since there is no record of any annullment, Obama Sr. remains the presumed legal father.

Since there is also no record of any Marriage, Barack is still a bastard, despite Democrat attempts to cover up this fact.

The fact that SAD chose to divorce Obama Sr. rather than annul the marriage is indicative that she may not have had grounds for annulment. It is very possible that Obama Sr.'s first "marriage" was just a tribal ceremony that was not legally recognized by the colonial British government, in which case the US government would not have recognized it, either.

Which still makes him a bastard.

169 posted on 06/07/2011 3:16:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity
Yes. As the US Supreme court ruled over 100 years ago, having a citizen father is not necessary for natural born citizenship, provided the child is born in the USA, as Barry was.

You are talking about Wong Kim Ark. Yeah, they got that one wrong. Sometimes all the idiots are on the same side and constitute a Majority.

In any case, we've yet to see that barry actually HAS 14th amendment citizenship. So far Hawaii has produced nothing that they will certify as Original. Till they do that, it leaves the door open for an Amended Document, which cannot prove anything.

170 posted on 06/07/2011 3:21:29 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity
Yes. As the US Supreme court ruled over 100 years ago, having a citizen father is not necessary for natural born citizenship, provided the child is born in the USA, as Barry was.

Oh, by the way, the Supreme court ruled in Roger v. Bellei that 14th amendment citizenship CAN be taken away. They also ruled that "Natural Born Citizenship" cannot.

171 posted on 06/07/2011 3:23:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: curiosity
No, they say it's authentic, AND that it might be an abstract. If it's an abstract, then that means it is an authentic reproduction of a subset of the information within the birth record, which makes it no less valid for the purposes of proving birth in the USA than a certified reproduction of the full birth record.

Really? They REFUSED to verify the COLB posted online was authentic. I find it strange that Bureaucrats will say that a PDF file is "Authentic" when it is just an image. I would think they could only claim that an actual paper DOCUMENT was authentic.

The IMAGE FILE claims to be either a true copy OR an Abstract of the record on file. (Don't you just love either/or certainty? Obama could be EITHER an American Citizen, OR a British National.)

*I* KNOW what an Amended record is. I have one. My original document is sealed, and the State will not let ANYONE see it without my permission. Of course they won't let anyone see my AMENDED document either, without my permission, but That's an "official" fake anyway.

For the office of President, we should not tolerate petty Privacy laws interfering with Article II compliance. Either Obama produces something which says copy of ORIGINAL document, or he doesn't get on the Ballot.

172 posted on 06/07/2011 3:32:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Who said they both went?


173 posted on 06/07/2011 3:34:04 PM PDT by fastkelly
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To: DiogenesLamp
Really? They REFUSED to verify the COLB posted online was authentic.

Try to keep up. That was the online scan of the short-form COLB. They have have EXPLICITLY verified that the long-form Obama recently released came from the state and is a true copy of the original:

http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=71462e6edb79c23595f73fe38&id=9d8904b9d5

174 posted on 06/07/2011 3:36:24 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: DiogenesLamp
The state of Hawaii (Really just the bureaucrats currently in charge there.) won't certify it as ORIGINAL.

Doesn't matter. So long as the state certifies that the contents therein are true, then it constitutes despositive evidence.

No one cares what an Amended record says.

If it were amended, it would say it is amended. But it doesn't say that, so we can conclude it's not amended.

175 posted on 06/07/2011 3:39:16 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: fastkelly
WND has a newspaper clipping from 1960 showing Barack Obama Sr. working in Hawaii during the summer of 1960, because he couldn't afford to live in Hawaii. How is he going to pay for round trip Airplane tickets for the both of them for the following year?

Who said they both went?

176 posted on 06/07/2011 3:39:34 PM PDT by fastkelly
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To: DiogenesLamp
Since there is also no record of any Marriage, Barack is still a bastard, despite Democrat attempts to cover up this fact.

First of all, there's a record of a divorce. Why would a couple bother getting divorced if they weren't married in the first place? Are you seriously going to claim a court would grant a divorce for a couple that couldn't prove they were married?

Second of all, who cares whether he's a bastard? Why would anyone bother trying to cover that up? Hello: it's the year 2011, not 1011.

177 posted on 06/07/2011 3:43:27 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: DiogenesLamp
Oh, by the way, the Supreme court ruled in Roger v. Bellei that 14th amendment citizenship CAN be taken away. They also ruled that "Natural Born Citizenship" cannot.

I don't believe you. Please cite the relevant paragraphs.

178 posted on 06/07/2011 3:44:35 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: fastkelly
Who said they both went?

Axiomatic. Why would Stanley go without Barack? If Barack Goes by himself, Stanley didn't give birth in Kenya.

No. Any theory that has one going without the other is simply too ridiculous to even consider. Actually, the theory that either or both went is too ridiculous to consider. (Cost too much for people who didn't have the money.)

179 posted on 06/07/2011 3:44:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: bluecat6
Show that he did.

Dude, their divorce papers are available online. Just Google them. The fact that they got divorced proves they were married.

Or are you going to seriously claim that a couple who were never married would go through the trouble of getting divorced?

180 posted on 06/07/2011 3:46:12 PM PDT by curiosity
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