Posted on 06/06/2011 5:28:16 PM PDT by PROCON
Would you ask a suicidal or homicidal patient?
A group of Florida physicians filed a federal lawsuit on Monday seeking to overturn a new state law that limits doctors' ability to ask patients about guns in the home."Do you have firearms in your house?"
Now that’s something we have a right to know!
Now that’s something we have a right to know!
I have actually been asked if we own guns. Once, when I was in active labor with my first child and my husband was asked during a physical prior to a routine colonoscopy. To be honest, our pediatricians have never asked. I understand that there are times when a physician may see a reason to ask: after a suicide attempt, before certain psychiatric medications are given.. I think people object most to the routine asking without cause.
We don’t have free speech, anyway. The purpose of free speech is to be able to make your political and religious viewpoints HEARD, not to be able to interrogate children and document your questioning to limit someone else MORE PROTECTED right to bear arms.
If you can make a law about doctor/patient confidentiality (or lawyer client), which bars speech, then this is ok too. Besides, the First amendment talks about Congress passing laws, not states, no matter how it’s been misinterpreted in our day. The Second Amendment bars ANY and ALL infringment on the right to bear arms, the first amendment bars only congress, and bars the freedom of speech, not documenting personal, private information into medical records accessed by the government:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
The doctor I go to charges by the minute. He doesn’t waste my time. I don’t waste his.
Typical news service. Statism everytime all the time. Couldn’t stop to think about this from the patient’s point of view. I thought libs were all about the privacy, especially with doctors?
“It isn’t? What subjects of conversation are you comfortable with the government forbidding in your workplace?”
I forgot to add that sexual talk is already barred in the workplace, along with racially based jokes, etc. There is a time and a place to say, and not say, things, and that fact is supported by many laws, and many examples.
6/10 FA!?!? wow talk about a small world.
Yeah I wasnt as diplomatic either. My first response was “None of your damn business”. I have this habit of operating my mouth before my brain engages.
“Why is asking about gun ownership pertinent to a patient complaining about knee pain, for instance; unless he had a bullet in his knee?!”
I got into this hot and heavy a few months ago, when it went around. The question is really whether we should permit people who are attacking the Second Amendment to hide behind the First Amendment while doing it.
I vote no.
The other thing that I found was the really strong supporters of this tyranny worked in the medical profession...so I don’t consider them worth of debate one bit.
“I believe this whole thing got started because of reports that doctors were asking children if their parents owned guns.”
I dealt with this one too. Never saw it coming. Luckily junior (at the time) didn’t know we had them. If he did, no doubt the next question would have been whether he held them, then he had unsupervised access, and then whether he used them, whether he talked to his friends about them. What dad did with them. How many. What type. Are they always locked up. Where are they stored.
I love the First Amendment as much as anyone, but I don’t believe it trumps the Second Amendment...but I guess others might.
“says the new law is an unconstitutional ban on physicians’ free speech and prevents them from counseling patients on firearm safety.”
Hmmm. What about giving out safe driving tips? Many, many more people killed in auto accidents than gun accidents.
Or maybe safe food preparation instructions, you know, like proper refrigeration and proper dish washing.
Household cleaning tips from your doc would be useful too.
Hunting and fishing safety lessons from your doc could stand you well too.
Also, maybe a smidgen of financial, investment, and real estate tips could be thrown in at the end of your 5 minutes.
And to tell you the truth, you probably could indeed get some excellent golf advice from your doc.
So, I’m seeing a trend here. Your doc gives advice on everything BUT medical issues!
Hey, it’s an Obama World now, baby!
(BTW, I personally do have several docs that bring up gun issues with me. I’m their FFL.)
The doctors I’ve seen in recent years must charge by the second. ;’) If any doctor ever brought up firearms — considering how little attention doctors pay to my actual complaints — my next trip would be downtown, where I’d be booked and arraigned.
Physician/Educator Qualifications and Liability Statement compliments of Second Amendment Sisters.
“Turn your head, cough and tell me how many weapons you own.”
Agree, no discussion of Gun Safety by docs. Probably set up by Obama and 'Physicians for Social Responsibility'.
What do they want to tell them? Maybe these points:
"In Florida, which in 1987 introduced the "shall-issue" concealed carry law used as a model for other states, one study found that crimes committed against residents dropped markedly upon the general issuance of concealed-carry licenses."
"In a 1998 book, More Guns, Less Crime, economics researcher John Lott's analysis of crime report data claims a statistically significant effect of concealed carry laws on crime, with more permissive concealed carry laws correlated with a decrease in overall crime. Lott studied FBI crime statistics from 1977 to 1993 and found that the passage of concealed carry laws resulted in a murder rate reduction of 8.5%, rape rate reduction of 5%, and aggravated assault reduction of 7%."
I doubt that's what they have in mind.
Went to a Physicians for Social Responsibility meeting once. They had an American flag on one side of the podium and the old hammer and sickle USSR flag on the other side. I stood up and said, "Why is the communist flag of the USSR here at this meeting?" The whole crowd turned and stared at me but didn't day a word. I just walked out. . .
LOL! No, with my age group, it would be:
Doctor: "OK, if you want me to remove my finger from your @$$, tell me, WHERE DO YOU KEEP YOUR GUNS!!"..:=)
Doesn't surprise me; commies with stethoscopes.
Fortunately, my Dr doesn’t have the balls to ask about my personal firearms. Should he grow a pair and ask I won’t answer. And I’ll be looking for a new Dr.
None of their damn business.
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