Posted on 06/06/2011 12:20:58 PM PDT by Al B.
And how many of his client have won since Reagan? I'm afraid this campaign is now a loser as well.
I find your analysis very thought provoking. I believe that Cain or someone like him could be a player in Iowa in any other year. This year, He will be matched against one of the most gifted politicians in U.S. history. He has none of the charisma nor the depth of understanding of policy nor the communication skills which Palin possesses in full measure.
He will do no better, and probably much worse than Allen Keyes, who was a much more spellbinding orator. For the most part, the only conservatives who will vote for him are those who harbor some deep-seated racial guilt and want to satiate it by voting for a black conservative. I suspect such guilt cookies are in short supply right now, as most people think the election of a black President has canceled whatever debt their conscience had levied upon them. Cain cannot expect to be the beneficiary of this neurosis to any significant degree. Without it, he is just another first time candidate reaching for the brass ring with his first grab.
“For the most part, the only conservatives who will vote for him are those who harbor some deep-seated racial guilt and want to satiate it by voting for a black conservative.”
Interestingly, your viewpoint focuses on conservatives’ guilt about race, but your analysis itself focuses on race to the exclusion of other factors. Conservatives who, like me, are tired of seeing businesses get marginalized in our society will vote for Cain, absent any considerations of race whatsoever, and your analysis, which attempts to highlight other parties’ focus on race, actually reveals a myopic focus on race within itself.
I’m simply looking at things from the Palin perspective. I like Cain just fine.
I just crossed Bachmann off my list.
It’s not racial guilt. It’s just that successful, conservative blacks shatter the left’s entire narrative.
“And how many of his client have won since Reagan?”
I can see Bachmann, Palin, Santorum or Cain being the next Reagan, so why not?
Ya I can see Palin, Santorum or Cain as the next Reagan. Bachmann has pretty much sealed her fate now with her selection of a RINO campaign manager though.
“It’s not racial guilt. It’s just that successful, conservative blacks shatter the left’s entire narrative.”
I am not interested in “shattering a narrative” or in attacking the left as an end in itself. I am interested in ELECTING a President of the United States, who can be EFFECTIVE. Herman Cain has NEVER been elected to anything, even the school board. He is a tableau rasa. You have no idea how he is going to govern, except what he has told you. That is a little too much trust to repose in a first time politician.
A vote for Herman Cain will not even annoy the left, because it assists their chosen GOP candidate, Mitt Romney, who will probably lose to Obama but, even if he wins, will do nothing to reverse their gains. A vote for Cain creates a win/win for the left. Herman cain is not going to be the GOP nominee.
Sarah Palin will REVERSE their gains. They know it and thus they are trying 24/7 to destroy her.
‘“For the most part, the only conservatives who will vote for him are those who harbor some deep-seated racial guilt and want to satiate it by voting for a black conservative.”
Interestingly, your viewpoint focuses on conservatives’ guilt about race, but your analysis itself focuses on race to the exclusion of other factors. Conservatives who, like me, are tired of seeing businesses get marginalized in our society will vote for Cain, absent any considerations of race whatsoever, and your analysis, which attempts to highlight other parties’ focus on race, actually reveals a myopic focus on race within itself.’
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So you are voting for Cain because he is a businessman. And you have a great idea how he is going to govern because...he told you. How myopic is that? A first time politician tells you what he is going to do and you believe him. Even if you are right, what evidence do you have that Herman Cain’s experience in business transfers into competence as President? That is three gigantic leaps of faith (believing that a first time politician can be elected President, AND believing that he means what he says AND believing that he can actually do what he says) that I am unwilling to take in 2012 when the fate of the nation hangs in the balance.
I can’t fathom how anyone would repose that kind of trust in an untested first time politician. It is either gross naivete, racial guilt (as I suggested above) or the intent to promote another candidate (such as Romney) by trying to steer as much of the conservative vote as possible away from a candidate who can win both the nomination and the election and who has a splendid track record of doing exactly what she says....Sarah Palin.
“So you are voting for Cain because he is a businessman. And you have a great idea how he is going to govern because...he told you. How myopic is that?”
Maybe he will govern in the same way he ran a business, successfully.
I’ve got a lot more confidence in a businessman running anything that I do in a politician running a gas station.
“A first time politician tells you what he is going to do and you believe him. Even if you are right, what evidence do you have that Herman Cain’s experience in business transfers into competence as President?”
Answer: Common sense.
“That is three gigantic leaps of faith”
No, it is not faith. It is reason.
“that I am unwilling to take in 2012 when the fate of the nation hangs in the balance.”
Then you lack courage.
“I can’t fathom how anyone would repose that kind of trust in an untested first time politician.”
Like George Washington?
“It is either gross naivete, racial guilt (as I suggested above) or the intent to promote another candidate (such as Romney) by trying to steer as much of the conservative vote as possible away from a candidate who can win both the nomination and the election and who has a splendid track record of doing exactly what she says....Sarah Palin.”
Well first of all, its not naive to think a successful business person would be more successful than the current occupant of the office.
Secondly, if you think I promote Romney then you are either profoundly ignorant of the thrust of my philosophy, or you didn’t bother to read any of my previous posts before making that accusation, or both.
Third, Sarah Palin is *not* a candidate, so its kind of hard to support Sarah Palin the candidate, who doesn’t exist.
Fourth, you really have no clue what my opinion of Sarah Palin is, so I suggest you educate yourself on that before you go making assumptions about my opinion of Sarah Palin. Furthermore, as you go singing the praises of Sarah Palin, perhaps you should consider the fact that Sarah Palin probably has a higher opinion of Herman Cain that you do. So if Sarah Palin were to call you on the telephone this afternoon, how would you explain to Sarah your opinion of Herman Cain, and do you feel that Sarah Palin is wrong about Herman Cain, when she is apparently so right about everything else? Why is it just this one subject where Sarah Palin’s correctness breaks down? Apparently, according to you, Sarah Palin is right about most things, except Herman Cain.
Fifth, the only party injecting “racial guilt” into the argument is you, so I suggest you look to yourself when it comes to “racial guilt” and ask yourself why do your wheels seem to be so squeaky about the subject?
Methinks the “racial guilt” monger doth protest too much. Maybe your seeming obsession with the issue is a form of projection of your own concerns onto others. Dunno. That’s for you to sort out. But I will say this, it is not reasonable, or rather, it is a “leap of faith” to assert that a group of people, namely small goverment, club for growth types like me, and tea partiers, would be so jeopardized by “racial guilt” in the case of Herman Cain when we were not driven by “racial guilt” to support black liberals like Colin Powell, Obama, and then in addition to them the group race-baiting and class baiting self-proclaimed speakers for racial and ethnic minorities in our country. It’s funny how none of us had “racial guilt” when it came to them. Apparently our “racial guilt” just kicks in when its a pro-growth, pro-business, small government, independent thinking, individualist minority candidate, so I guess that must be “racial guilt” motivating that. /sarcasm off
Or maybe we support him for another reason:
Competent leadership.
Something sorely lacking, and unfortunately, sorely lacking among the Republican candidates, for the most part.
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