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Yes, let's demonize the big bad doctors & hospitals that err on the side of life. Shame on them for being aggressive. After all, don't doctors know everything? Shouldn't we let them decide who lives & dies? /s

If this isn't sugar-coating death panels, mercy killing, & euthanasia, I'm not sure what is. How disgusting.

1 posted on 06/05/2011 7:50:42 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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doctors can not win....if they don't do enough for the old people, they're condemned...if they do too much, they're condemned....

my experience which is working in hospitals for over 35 yrs is that more often than not its the families gunning for every concievable treatment, not the patients, and not the doctors....

we have families that feel guilty for ignoring mom or dad all those years and now are in that hospital room demanding it all.....

we do have some families that want mom or dad to die quickly...I mean some of them really want them gone....always asking...."how long " when no one can properly answer that....

but its always the docs isn't it...the docs or the hosptials...or the evil nurses ...or the Catholics...

2 posted on 06/05/2011 7:57:27 PM PDT by cherry
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To: surroundedbyblue

Disagree. When an ethical doctor and his peers know that death is inevitable(within a certain time frame) I see nothing wrong with this approach. That was the deal with my 84 year old mother, who, dying of cancer was told that chemo would give her a year, while palliative care would give her six more or less pain free months. She lasted seven decent, coherent months that allowed her to make peace in her life instead of puking her guts out for a year.


3 posted on 06/05/2011 8:01:13 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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It's the selfish fools who want to preserve their mortal lives forever that are the baffling ones.

They sometimes don't hesitate to demand every conceivable procedure for a few days more.

I wish they had an equal desire to find peace with their creator.

I watched family member go both ways. The one's who let nature have it's way tend to go happier.

8 posted on 06/05/2011 8:09:34 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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In a free market system, the patient pays, and the doctor has a financial incentive to provide treatment.

In a “single payer” government system, the government pays. Treatment is then nothing but a cost center, and the incentive is to find every possible way to reduce the treatments provided.

I want a doctor working on the profit motive.


18 posted on 06/05/2011 8:37:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: surroundedbyblue

You’re right


26 posted on 06/05/2011 8:54:25 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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Any patient who is mentally competent can refuse all treatment at any time. If this guy has such a desire to die he could have arranged it long ago.
28 posted on 06/05/2011 9:01:32 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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The patient is always in control of weather they follow the doctors diagnosis or just go home. My father went out of the hospital AMA when he didn't like the surgeon assigned to his case...Its done every day by patients in the hospital. A decent doctor will see to it that they have the pain meds. they need. Sorry for the old guy, he didn't make his own decision...

In this country no one can force you to take a treatment unless in rare cases the dumb ass doctor goes to the courts...

48 posted on 06/05/2011 9:43:00 PM PDT by goat granny
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71 posted on 06/06/2011 10:54:11 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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