"Why don't you open up and let me in
Oop wee oop
Wee oop, wee oop
Ooh wee oop, wee oop
Wee oop."
Posted on 06/04/2011 11:23:17 AM PDT by petitfour
The SWAT officers who shot and killed a man while serving a search warrant last month gave at least two commands for someone to open the door before knocking it open, according to documents released Friday.
The officers told investigators that, upon opening the door, they saw a man appear in the hallway holding a rifle before they saw what they thought were muzzle flashes from his gun.
It was later determined Jose Guerena's rifle was on safety and he didn't fire at the officers.
The Pima County Sheriff's Department released hundreds of evidence photos and transcribed interviews with the SWAT officers who fired at Guerena during the raid on his home May 5.
The photos show the interior of Guerena's home - its walls painted a dark gray - and evidence collected at his home and three others searched that day. The photos show guns, ammunition, vehicles, cash, documents, cellphones and other items found at the homes or in the vehicles.
(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...
Drugs? IMHO officers involved in any discharge of a weapon outside of the range should be given a drug screen. Maybe they do this and I have never heard of it, but I believe we would hear about a lot of unsatisfactory results if they did.
If there were basis for any single one of those charges, he would not have been released.
Read the link and it is easy to see some cop went over the edge.
“There was a Pinal County arrest in January 2009. A DPS officer reported he stopped Guerena and two other men, found a gun and a small amount of marijuana. The Pinal County Attorney’s Office did not press charges.
Investigators say in September 2009 Guerena was stopped in a truck that had a large roll of the plastic wrap often used to package drug loads like this one.
Earlier in April 2009, investigators say they tracked cars leaving a stash house to another house where Guerena was...they questioned Guerena but he would not cooperate...
Investigators also questioned how nine people mentioned in the affidavit could own 32 cars among them worth more than $344 thousand dollars...
According to the documents, Jose Guerena was one of the people with a real job, making $41,000 a year at the ASARCO mine.”
http://www.kgun9.com/story/14831993/warrant-request-says-guerena-in-drug-ring
Can I see going to his house and making a search? Yes.
Can I see ANY need for a SWAT team, or the hysterical accusations that he was a drug boss? Not a chance in hell.
On the whole, it looks like he may have been on the periphery of a drug operation, with relatives that were more deeply involved. But there obviously wasn’t enough meat to justify a personal warrant, and no way there was enough to justify a SWAT team. He had been stopped and talked to before without any problem. Why not knock on the door prior to his arrival home, and let him arrive with a search in progress? They obviously knew where he worked...
BTW - 32/9= 3.5 cars each. I have 3 cars in my driveway, plus my son’s car. An average value of <$11,000 each doesn’t exactly have them driving Cadillacs or rolling in the dough.
Can I see going to his house and making a search? Yes.
I agree. The police are not Judge, Prosecutor and Jury.
They arrest (meaning they hold, not beat, or kill) those persons who may be guilty until the Courts decide guilt and access punishment.
Don't forget about the $2500 bond. I think jaywalking merits a higher bond that that.
Don’t talk to cops
Never, not after lsiteing to that video.
Thanks.
Don’t talk to cops
Never, not after listening to that video.
Thanks.
Twice! Wow! If only the British had done that, we wouldn’t have had to have that silly Revolution.
This is the result of allowing the LEOs to militarize into SWAT units. Should never have been permitted.
Which presumes, of course, that news of such an attack ever makes it to the web......See Patriot Act......We’re merely being “tolerated” at this point.... >PS
This is interesting:
Detectives were watching Jose Guerena’s house on April 20th and their car was followed for 11 miles by a car belonging to Jose Guerena’s younger brother, Gerardo. A couple of days later someone working at the AZ Motor Vehicle Division ran a records check on the license plate of the detectives’ car!
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_e0f15227-ce94-50b0-80b9-0fc8563e9346.html
In the morning apparently.
I haven't found any holes in the arguments. Life is not what it was when I was a kid.
I'd suggest that all gov't offices should have audio and video streamed over the net so citizens can check up on their "servants".
The popos came over to my neighbors house yesterday and took all sorts of photos of me watching them take photos. What’s up with that? If I thought I could have grabbed a camera quickly to return the favor I’d have done it.
The popos came over to my neighbors house yesterday and took all sorts of photos of me watching them take photos. What’s up with that? If I thought I could have grabbed a camera quickly to return the favor I’d have done it.
"Oh my god! He's coming right at us! Open Up! Open Up on him!"
I’ve heard it said, in comments somewhere that the kid
saved her life. They couldn’t explain away a dead child.
Exactly what is a “police executive”, and what is your husbands opinion of that fiasco effected by Sheriff Dipstick’s SWAT team? Also, is it customary for a full SWAT team to be executing a routine search warrant in your husband’s outfit?
JC
"Why don't you open up and let me in
Oop wee oop
Wee oop, wee oop
Ooh wee oop, wee oop
Wee oop."
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