SWAT: We said, 'Open up' at least twice

Arizona Daily Star ^ | 6/4/2011 | Jamar Younger

[magslinger]

Wonder what made those nonexistent muzzle flashes.

Drugs? IMHO officers involved in any discharge of a weapon outside of the range should be given a drug screen. Maybe they do this and I have never heard of it, but I believe we would hear about a lot of unsatisfactory results if they did.

[old curmudgeon]

If there were basis for any single one of those charges, he would not have been released.

Read the link and it is easy to see some cop went over the edge.

[Mr Rogers]

“There was a Pinal County arrest in January 2009. A DPS officer reported he stopped Guerena and two other men, found a gun and a small amount of marijuana. The Pinal County Attorney’s Office did not press charges.

Investigators say in September 2009 Guerena was stopped in a truck that had a large roll of the plastic wrap often used to package drug loads like this one.

Earlier in April 2009, investigators say they tracked cars leaving a stash house to another house where Guerena was...they questioned Guerena but he would not cooperate...

Investigators also questioned how nine people mentioned in the affidavit could own 32 cars among them worth more than $344 thousand dollars...

According to the documents, Jose Guerena was one of the people with a real job, making $41,000 a year at the ASARCO mine.”

http://www.kgun9.com/story/14831993/warrant-request-says-guerena-in-drug-ring

Can I see going to his house and making a search? Yes.

Can I see ANY need for a SWAT team, or the hysterical accusations that he was a drug boss? Not a chance in hell.

On the whole, it looks like he may have been on the periphery of a drug operation, with relatives that were more deeply involved. But there obviously wasn’t enough meat to justify a personal warrant, and no way there was enough to justify a SWAT team. He had been stopped and talked to before without any problem. Why not knock on the door prior to his arrival home, and let him arrive with a search in progress? They obviously knew where he worked...

BTW - 32/9= 3.5 cars each. I have 3 cars in my driveway, plus my son’s car. An average value of <$11,000 each doesn’t exactly have them driving Cadillacs or rolling in the dough.

[Doe Eyes]

Investigators also questioned how nine people mentioned in the affidavit could own 32 cars among them worth more than $344 thousand dollars...

Can I see going to his house and making a search? Yes.

I agree. The police are not Judge, Prosecutor and Jury.

They arrest (meaning they hold, not beat, or kill) those persons who may be guilty until the Courts decide guilt and access punishment.

[VeniVidiVici]

If there were basis for any single one of those charges, he would not have been released.

Don't forget about the $2500 bond. I think jaywalking merits a higher bond that that.

[FreeMaine]

Don’t talk to cops

Never, not after lsiteing to that video.

Thanks.

[FreeMaine]

Don’t talk to cops

Never, not after listening to that video.

Thanks.

[Republic of Texas]

Twice! Wow! If only the British had done that, we wouldn’t have had to have that silly Revolution.

[Czar]

This is the result of allowing the LEOs to militarize into SWAT units. Should never have been permitted.

[PiperShade]

Which presumes, of course, that news of such an attack ever makes it to the web......See Patriot Act......We’re merely being “tolerated” at this point.... >PS

[donna]

This is interesting:

Detectives were watching Jose Guerena’s house on April 20th and their car was followed for 11 miles by a car belonging to Jose Guerena’s younger brother, Gerardo. A couple of days later someone working at the AZ Motor Vehicle Division ran a records check on the license plate of the detectives’ car!

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_e0f15227-ce94-50b0-80b9-0fc8563e9346.html

[Paladin2]

In the morning apparently.

[Paladin2]

I've now watched that video > 10x.

I haven't found any holes in the arguments. Life is not what it was when I was a kid.

[Paladin2]

Somebody has to watch the watchers.

I'd suggest that all gov't offices should have audio and video streamed over the net so citizens can check up on their "servants".

[Paladin2]

The popos came over to my neighbors house yesterday and took all sorts of photos of me watching them take photos. What’s up with that? If I thought I could have grabbed a camera quickly to return the favor I’d have done it.

[Paladin2]

The popos came over to my neighbors house yesterday and took all sorts of photos of me watching them take photos. What’s up with that? If I thought I could have grabbed a camera quickly to return the favor I’d have done it.

[Oztrich Boy]

yes they did.

"Oh my god! He's coming right at us! Open Up! Open Up on him!"

[cycjec]

I’ve heard it said, in comments somewhere that the kid
saved her life. They couldn’t explain away a dead child.

[cracker45]

Exactly what is a “police executive”, and what is your husbands opinion of that fiasco effected by Sheriff Dipstick’s SWAT team? Also, is it customary for a full SWAT team to be executing a routine search warrant in your husband’s outfit?

JC

[Lancey Howard]

And not only did they say "Open up." twice, they even sang an old pop song by the Sensations, too.

"Why don't you open up and let me in
Oop wee oop
Wee oop, wee oop
Ooh wee oop, wee oop
Wee oop."