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To: null and void

I’m an attorney and regularly work on illegal immigrant matters. While e-verify is good, it is also a double edged sword. Why? Because most illegals today use stolen SS numbers and I.D. Cards. This means they will pass the e-verify test. It also means that the employer will be in some serious trouble if they refuse to hire someone they suspect is illegal, but who passed e-verify. In a real way, e-verify helps illegals to gain and keep employment.


74 posted on 06/04/2011 10:57:21 AM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: Treeless Branch

Fair enough. Where would you start?


76 posted on 06/04/2011 11:33:39 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 863 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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To: Treeless Branch
Because most illegals today use stolen SS numbers and I.D. Cards. This means they will pass the e-verify test. It also means that the employer will be in some serious trouble if they refuse to hire someone they suspect is illegal, but who passed e-verify. In a real way, e-verify helps illegals to gain and keep employment.

Most (98 percent) Social Security number (SSN) thieves use their own names with stolen numbers. The federal E-Verify program, now mandated in only 14 states, can detect this fraud. Universal, mandatory use of E-Verify would curb this and stop virtually 100 percent of child identity theft.

The use of E-Verify should hold employers free from penalty if they inadvertently hire an illegal worker after following the prescribed procedures. It provides something of a "safe harbor."

In a real way, e-verify helps illegals to gain and keep employment

Using that convoluted logic, groups like La Raza and the Chamber of Commerce should be big supporters of E-Verify. The reality is that E-Verify works and acts as deterrence to illegal employment.

79 posted on 06/04/2011 11:44:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Treeless Branch
While e-verify is good, it is also a double edged sword. Why? Because most illegals today use stolen SS numbers and I.D. Cards. This means they will pass the e-verify test. It also means that the employer will be in some serious trouble if they refuse to hire someone they suspect is illegal, but who passed e-verify. In a real way, e-verify helps illegals to gain and keep employment.

And here is another question: If e-verify (plus other efforts) actually prevented illegals from working at "on-the-books" jobs, wouldn't underground, off-the-books jobs appear to replace them? Remember, they are already illegal. What do they have to lose?

Like you, I am not saying that e-verify is a bad idea. It's a start. Congress needs to make it clear that illegals who participate in identity theft face prison time. But given the current attitude of the DOJ and DHS, I don't think that would be sufficient. Watch what happens in Alabama now. The feds will do everything they can to nullify and refuse to cooperate with the new e-verify law, while continuing to sit on their posteriors WRT federal immigration enforcement.

80 posted on 06/04/2011 12:00:58 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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