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This French jet is flying around with an untested nuke
Jalopnik ^ | Jun 2, 2011 | Matt Hardigree

Posted on 06/02/2011 1:43:12 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

This French jet is flying around with an untested nuke

Matt Hardigree —Below this French Rafale jet is a missile that can travel about 300 miles before deploying a completely untested 300 kiloton nuclear warhead. This shot wasn't taken at the height of the Cold War. It was taken last week. To understand why you have to understand the French approach to nuclear deterrence. Films like War Games and Dr. Strangelove have brainwashed us into believing the whole world plays by the same rules of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) that dictate the use of nuclear weapons will cause a chain reactions that results in all of us dying a fiery death while a few generals in a bunker strip down for a game of post-apocalyptic hide-the-warhead with their secretaries.

The French don't traffic in that nonsense. It's been a longstanding policy of the country, going back to the Cold War, to keep a few aircraft-based weapons around to fire off as a "warning shot." The basic idea was to stop an advancing horde of Soviets and other Warsaw Pact countries from overrunning France by dropping a small tactical nuclear weapon somewhere they'd notice.

On one hand, averting an all-out global conflict by using a small nuclear device isn't the worst last ditch effort idea. On the other hand, as Defense Tech points out, "I'm not sure how effective nuclear warning shots are if the other guy has nukes, too." Whatever sense this policy made in 1986 when the first jets equipped with these short range deterrence nuclear weapons launched, it's increasingly questionable what use they are now that the risk of dirty Ukrainians storming the Champs-Élysées is pretty low.

But it still exists. Here's a quote from then French President Jacques Chirac in 2006 regarding the country's willingness to use nuclear weapons in self defense even if someone else hasn't fired them.

"Leaders of States resorting to terrorist means against us, as those who might consider, one way or the other, weapons of mass destruction, must understand that they risk a firm and adapted response from us. And this response can be of a conventional nature. It can also be of another nature."

It doesn't take much to read between the lines there, but that quote comes from a report by the Stimson Center on the French Nuclear policy [Stimson.org (PDF)] that includes this comforting assurance:

French policy makes clear that when referring to deterrence, they are referring to nuclear deterrence; the two words are still very much associated in the nation's strategic culture.

With this policy in mind, the French went about updating the arsenal of the Force de Frappe — tasked with carrying out France's nuclear deterrence and making frozen coffee drinks.

The original ASMP nuclear missiles launched in 1986 on board a small number of Mirage jets and were recently replaced by the advanced ASMP-A tactical missiles with a longer range (300 miles) and the ability to attack a target at a lower angle.

Successful tests of the missile itself were conducted last fall, but a ban on nuclear weapons testing means they couldn't test the warhead and instead relied on old test data and computer simulation.

All this takes us to last week when the newer and more advanced Rafale jet from Strike Squadron 1/91 was spotted taking off from the Istres base along the Mediterranean coast by an aviation photographer with the telltale red-tipped standoff ramjet missile underwing in "Nuclear strike" configuration.

Currently, the main conflict theater for the French air force is Libya, where Rafale jets are being used. Technically, under the current French nuclear doctrine it could launch one of these nukes at Tripoli if Qaddafi were to, say, get terrorist forces to set off chemical weapons around the Eiffel Tower.

It's an unlikely scenario, perhaps even more unlikely than one of these jets crashing or going all "broken arrow" in the hands of an insane pilot, which makes the fact that they're up there at all a little unnerving. We prefer the American approach of carrying warheads around in 18-wheelers.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; forcedefrappe; france; nuclear; rafale
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Rafale nuke layout

1 posted on 06/02/2011 1:43:19 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Maybe its looking for a place to test it.


2 posted on 06/02/2011 1:48:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

300 KT is a heck of a warning shot.


3 posted on 06/02/2011 1:49:56 PM PDT by mmercier
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Neat graphic, thank you!


4 posted on 06/02/2011 1:52:24 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down!)
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To: mmercier
300 KT is a heck of a warning shot.

Nice size. Would be exactly right for the base of the Aswan or Three Gorges..

5 posted on 06/02/2011 1:55:19 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Hmmm. . . maybe so long as Obama is POTUS and Sarkozy is President of France, we should regard Sarkozy as the leader of the free world.
6 posted on 06/02/2011 1:57:37 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: cripplecreek
Maybe its looking for a place to test it.


7 posted on 06/02/2011 1:59:19 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: mmercier

It would have been a warning shot fired over German territory.


8 posted on 06/02/2011 1:59:52 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Vaquero

The borg cube was exactly what I had in mind.


9 posted on 06/02/2011 2:00:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Well now there’s a Maalox Moment waiting to happen.


10 posted on 06/02/2011 2:03:08 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: mmercier

Drop it on Mecca, see if it works. If it goes OK, drop one on Medina, then Syria, then Liybia, then Algeria, then Iran, then Somalia, then Pakistan. Get my drift?


11 posted on 06/02/2011 2:04:15 PM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: mmercier
300 KT is a heck of a warning shot.

And if "the dirty Ukrainians" were to attack, the 300 miles range - assuming that the missile is launched from French airspace - would be just enough to cross the border with Germany and take, say, Frankfurt out. I'm not sure how the attacking Soviet troops would see this - as a strike against them or as a strike against last Germans who are still fighting them :-)

12 posted on 06/02/2011 2:04:27 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Vaquero

I was thinking Tripoli but .. Yeah, that’ll work.


13 posted on 06/02/2011 2:06:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: cripplecreek
"The borg cube "

What exactly is in that thing?

What do muzzies claim is in it?

14 posted on 06/02/2011 2:10:19 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Have the French factored in pilots named Mohammed into their strategy?


15 posted on 06/02/2011 2:12:55 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks like the ASMP missile. Similar to our old SRAM missiles IIRC.


16 posted on 06/02/2011 2:16:39 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: mmercier

Warning shot, my royal Irish arse. On 9/12/2001, Riyadh, Damascus and Tehran would have experienced a nuclear dawn.

The message: “Threaten our civilization, and yours is forfeit. Next?”


17 posted on 06/02/2011 2:17:27 PM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Greysard

Given their history, I’m sure that France would see it as a two-fer.


18 posted on 06/02/2011 2:19:07 PM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is it legal to start a fund to bribe them to hit that damn rock in Mecca?


19 posted on 06/02/2011 2:21:55 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Awfully small for 300 Kiloton’s!


20 posted on 06/02/2011 2:27:59 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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