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America's Third War: Is the U.S. Arming Mexican Cartels?
FoxNews.com ^ | May 31, 2011 | William La Jeunesse

Posted on 06/02/2011 9:29:14 AM PDT by neverdem

If you ever watch video or look at pictures of the drug war in Mexico, you'll notice some pretty heavy weapons. This is a war being waged with rockets and plastic explosives, not pea shooters and Saturday Night Specials. Consider these incidents:

- A M26A2 fragmentation grenade used against a U.S. Consulate in Mexico in 2008

- Explosive projectiles and 21 grenades found during a raid in Guadalupe

- An unexploded grenade and pull ring used to attack a TV station in Monterrey

- Automatic weapons, including U.S.-made M16s, found at a cartel crime scene in May 2009

- U.S. military-issued ammunition found in a cartel raid in Reynosa in November 2008

You can't buy this stuff at a U.S. gun store. So where do the cartels get it? According to leaked diplomatic cables, there are three sources.

1. U.S. Defense Department shipments to Latin America, known and tracked by the U.S. State Department as "foreign military sales."

2. Weapons ordered by the Mexican government, tracked by the State Department as "direct commercial sales."

3. Aging, but plentiful arsenals of military weapon stores in Honduras, Guatemala and Nicaragua.

Even though these facts were well-known by the Obama administration, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Attorney General Eric Holder, it blamed much of the violence in Mexico on U.S. gun stores.

"More than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our border," President Obama said in February 2009.

That was contested, but few listened to gun store owners and former vets like Lynn Kartchner, owner of Allsafe Security, a gun shop in Douglas, Ariz...

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; batfe; democrats; gunwalker; mythof90percent; obama; obamaisaliar
America's Third War: Is the U.S. Arming Mexican Cartels?

It appears to be the same headline, byline and story from April 28, 2011.

1 posted on 06/02/2011 9:29:18 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Am I going to the wrong guns shows and border state gun stores?


2 posted on 06/02/2011 9:33:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: neverdem

This is at least America’s Fifth War


3 posted on 06/02/2011 10:03:51 AM PDT by STD ('Be Ye holy, for I am holy')
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To: neverdem

This is at least America’s Fifth War


4 posted on 06/02/2011 10:04:00 AM PDT by STD ('Be Ye holy, for I am holy')
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To: neverdem

So we have foreign militias at our doorstep with military grade equipment threatening me and my government won’t protect me? Then either arm me with the same equipment or stop the frigging shipments to these central american crap holes.
Somehow I doubt I will see either.


5 posted on 06/02/2011 10:13:03 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: neverdem

You have to ask? Of course the U.S. is supplying the cartels; where have you been?


6 posted on 06/02/2011 11:00:27 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: neverdem

If we don’t defeat Washington D.C. we are screwed blued and tattooed with a pic of Dingle Barry on our asses..


7 posted on 06/02/2011 11:01:36 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: STD

We’re at almost 10 wars now, not including the Revolution and Cold War; US government was established after 1776, and the Cold War wasn’t an open war.


8 posted on 06/02/2011 11:28:16 AM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: neverdem

OPERATION GUNRUNNER is Barry’s idea to dump guns in Mexico, Blame US Gun manufacturers and distributors and then GUT the 2nd Amendment even further.

When those right wing radicals have problems with storm troppers kicking down YOUR door and confiscating your guns and amunition, then comes Martial Law.

Barry is a community organizer, in your face and up yours.

My Representative called Barry a liar in Congress yet he will not even answer letters demanding IMPEACHMENT proceeding begin immediately.


9 posted on 06/02/2011 12:46:14 PM PDT by politicianslie (Democrats are COMMUNISTS, Repubs are SOCIALISTS, and Barry is a radical Muslim)
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To: neverdem

It is WELL known that the Zetas ‘gulf Cartel, a ex-special forces unit of the Mexican Army, has been in operation for years and has recently been recruiting openly in Mexico.

In the border city of Reynosa a banner reads, “Former soldiers sought to form armed group; good pay, 500 dollars,” “The Zetas operations group wants you, soldier or ex-soldier,”

Authorities said the signs were probably an attempt to demoralize the soldiers and police, rather than a serious recruiting effort.

YEAH I’M SURE THAT’S IT!

SEE: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-04-24-mexicocartels_N.htm


10 posted on 06/02/2011 3:10:33 PM PDT by alexandria ("If this be treason, make the most of it!" Patrick Henry)
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To: alexandria
did anybody call the phone number???

11 posted on 06/02/2011 4:19:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem
Dduring February 2009 visit to Paris Mexico president Calderon was on record saying that U.S. Government is aiding militarily Mexican drug Cartel.

It was for the first time that someone dared to openly say what was already known.

A month later, swine flu outbreak (of U.S. strain) destroyed Mexican tourist season. Government suffered immense financial loss and had a problem to finance drug war.

Felipe Calderon quickly changed the tune and never mentioned U.S. military aid to drug cartels ever again. Lesson learned.

U.S. "War on drugs" is as fake as "war on terror".

12 posted on 06/02/2011 4:23:21 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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WHAT IS THE MERIDA INITIATIVE? The US Congress passed legislation in late June 2008 to provide Mexico with $400 million and Central American countries with $65 million that year for the Mérida Initiative---to fight drug wars. The initiative was announced 22 Oct 2007 and signed into law June 30, 2008.

THE FACTS ARE THESE : Mexico is calculatedly staging the "war on drugs" and other border violence -- with a hidden agenda--to loot the United States treasury. Using deceit and guile, Mexico has infiltrated the US political system, from domestic to foreign policy, as well as L/E. The Mexican govt is sending millions of Reconquista shock troops from Third Worlds over the border (illegal aliens) coaching them about taking over the US system.

Mexico is the staging area for Central and South American Third World illegals to stream over the border into the US.

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Central America and Mexico are conning the US -----extorting US tax dollars to support Marxist/terrorist movement via the Merida Initiative----a despicable con to arm its police and military using US tax dollars to protect terrorists and drug cartels who are moving across the border into the US.

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Clearly, the Mexican govt is fomenting drug violence in order to: (1) get billions of dollars in US assistance, and, (2) to help their populations flee over the border claiming they are victims of violence and need "asylum." Asylum claims gets illegals thousands of dollars in SS funds.

Mexican Federales are getting rich using some familiar strategies:

(1) plotting to become a ward of the US;

(2) faking victimization;

(3) secretly revving up internal conflicts;

(4) play-acting the ignoramus;

(5) claiming they can't "control" their enemies without US money;

(6) organizing voting blocs----exchanging votes for US cash.

It's all a big scam---illegals are being financed and coached by Third World governments. The federales are salivating to get their dirty hands on trillions in US foreign aid---and they need a voting bloc to manipulate the US govt and loot the US Treasury.

ACTION NOW---Stop all funding for this con game. Tell your reps to stop funding the Merida Initiative scam now.

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Phoenix Latinos will protest in Atlanta
"We are taking over this land and anybody who doesn’t like it should go back to Europe"

The Examiner | May 20th, 2011 | Miguel Perez
FR Posted Sat, May 21, 2011 by moonshinner_09

Georgia won’t be part of the proposed Latino homeland of Aztlán, but Latino civil rights leaders from Phoenix will march and protest in different parts of Atlanta next week for immigration laws they view as unjust. “Latinos won’t stay at the back of the bus anymore. We are taking over this land and anybody who doesn’t like it should go back to Europe,” says Jorge Serrano of Take Back Aztlán. “Racism should not be tolerated anymore in this country. Trying to get rid of Latinos is nothing but racist,” says Cecilia Maldonado of Chicanos Unidos Arizona, who will be meeting with Latino civil rights leaders in Atlanta to propose national boycotts. (Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...

Translated from the Espanol------Third World federales are salivating over looting the US treasury.

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WAITING TO GET THEIR ORDERS FROM MEXICO
Reconquista shock troops at Phoenix Capital protest, May 29, 2010.

2009---TEXAS DREAM ACT DEMONSTRATION
Marching to get college freebies. In their secret enclaves
they are conspiring to destroy the USA from within.

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The incessant drumbeat about "Drug Violence" is calculated----to allow thousands of Mexicans to seek refuge in the U.S.

PROFITABLE CON GAME Mexican illegals are using the asylum scam to get on the US gravy train--claiming drug violence "forced" them to flee over the border.

THE ASYLUM RIPOFF UP CLOSE A Social Security category provides outrageous government financial aid to "refugees" claiming "persecution." These phonies never paid a dime into the SS system; yet, they can collect seven years straight...... and can get extended payments if they are politically well-connected. The SS checks can amount to $1000 a month, and more. And that's for one identity---

Evidence shows illegals establish several identities with phony SS nos and fake documents (which "impoverished immigrants" buy from itinerant document brokers for several thousand dollars). Washington state rapist, Jose Madrigal, had 30 identities.

Earned Income Tax Credit is also available to immigrants who obtain legal work status. But the law allows immigrants to claim EITC for up to three years prior to obtaining that status. Workers simply file a tax return for the years in which they were not legally eligible to work in the US. The most widespread abuse stems from the requirement that children live with the worker for more than six months of the year. IRS does little to verify the claim.

Many immigrants claim non-existent children, or claim children who they’ve left behind with relatives. Those with two or more children and income below $32,121 could get as much as $4,008. It is estimated that illegals got $22 billion EITC refunds.

13 posted on 06/03/2011 12:59:15 PM PDT by Liz
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To: DTA; alexandria; Chode; neverdem; miliantnutcase; STD; hosepipe; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; ...

PING TO #13


14 posted on 06/03/2011 1:01:43 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

2012 is the last chance for America.. if Zero wins by hook or crook.. we be screwed..
This is the BIG ONE... America is on the hands of the TpCaucus..


15 posted on 06/03/2011 9:16:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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