Herman Cain, Sarah Palin tied for second in Iowa

ajc ^ | 6-1-11 | j galloway

[Brookhaven]

Herman Cain’s scrappy campaign for the GOP presidential nomination is making an impression. From Public Policy Polling of North Carolina:

Mitt Romney has the lead in PPP’s first Iowa poll since Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump exited the race, but with six different candidates polling in double digits it’s clear this thing is wide open.

Romney polls at 21%. Sarah Palin and Herman Cain are tied for second at 15%. Newt Gingrich is 4th with 12%, Michele Bachmann 5th with 11%, Tim Pawlenty 6th with 10%, Ron Paul 7th with 8%, and Jon Huntsman 8th with 0% (only one respondent to the poll picked him.) 8% said they supported someone else or were undecided.

Cain and Palin have been the biggest beneficiaries in Iowa of Huckabee and Trump’s decisions not to run. Cain is at 15% now despite not even having been included on our last poll. Palin’s gained 7 points in the six weeks since our last poll compared to 5 point gains for Romney, Pawlenty, and Bachmann, a 3 point gain for Gingrich, and a 2 point bump for Paul.

[Brookhaven]

Remember, two months ago nobody knew who Herman Cain was (and a lot of voters still don't). He's gone from zero to serious contender in record time.

Cain still has incredibly low name reconition (not even in the same ballpark as Palin, for example), yet he still is managing to tie Palin in the number of supporters. Cain's pool of potential supporters (the people who currently recongize who Cain is) is much smaller than Palin's pool of potential supporters. If Cain was known by as many people that know Palin (had the same size potential suppoter pool), he would easily be in 1st place--way, way ahead of even Romney.

Herman Cain's biggest advantage over every other candidate is the more people get to know him, the more they like him--a lot.

Nerds 4 Cain is in beta testing: www.nerds4cain.com

[TheBattman]

That would make an interesting ticket!

[americanophile]

I like Cain and continue to hope he progresses!

[org.whodat]

What is really unbelievable is that pawlenty is the only one that comes close to beating Willard.

[sarah fan UK]

How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?

[MBB1984]

Cain may be the only true Conservative in the race. He speaks as a businessman who has experience in turning a business around and not as a bureaucrat or politician.

Cain is a burst of fresh air!

[txrangerette]

Your math skills stink.

[ASA Vet]

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama isn't!

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Sarah Palin is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama isn't!

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[HereInTheHeartland]

“How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?”

She has not done anything yet

[txrangerette]

Zero for Palin to this point.

I don’t know Cain’s campaign schedule.

[org.whodat]

Read to end of poll not the herman spin post.

[RockinRight]

Go Herman!

[jnsun]

Given the stage, either Cain or Palin will show up the Media, and the DC elite, both Democrat and Republican Parties, as the ugly self-aggrandizing bigots they are.

Being President, or CEO, or, Chairman, or the like, is not a matter of being "smart", Bill Clinton is admittedly "smart," rather it is a matter of values.

[kevkrom]

If Cain was known by as many people that know Palin (had the same size potential suppoter pool), he would easily be in 1st place

Logical fallacy. It's possible that this is true, but the assertion relies on assumptions that may or may not be true, for example, any or all of the following may be true, and thus belie your assertion:

• Cain's popularity is high in the portion of the sample that have heard of him, because those who are most actively paying attention are more likely to support Cain. His support rate in the remaining population may be considerably lower, even after exposure.
• Cain's popularity may be tied to his status as an underdog. If he becomes a "favored" candidate, some of that support may shift.
• Similarly, Cain's relative lack of exposure may be helping his support as he is seen by some as an idealized form of himself and additional spotlight might take some of the bloom off of that rose, for instance.
• Cain is actually declared for the race and many of his (potential) competitors are not. This may skew the results of the poll.

Again, I'm not discounting the possibly that Cain will gain more support as he gains exposure. Just pointing out that asserting that he will (or would) without considering other factors that might come into play by that time is an error in logic.

[Oldyungun]

Not much experience in Iowa that I am aware of, however her One Nation bus tour is almost certainly on it’s way there now! Every day, that tour name, “One Nation,” grows on me. I can see that being a great campaign slogan to rally Americans behind. I also like that God is represented in it.

[Choozer]

I know some folks here hate Gov. Christie, but could you imagine a Cain-Christie dream ticket. After all, you want an aggressive VP candidate and CC can be a pitbull. Cain-Rubio would be another interesting strategic pairing.

[Pollster1]

Excellent summary.

[Brookhaven]

How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?

Her supporters say she's using an unconventional campaigning style, so they old questions like does she have an organizaition, is her organization active, or is she campaigning in a state don't apply.

Whatever the truth of what she's doing, I don't think her supporters can have it both ways. They can't blame bad numbers on the fact that she isn't campaigning in Iowa, and on the other hand say she's pursuing an alternative method of campaigning and thus out smarting everyone else.

BTW, I like Palin. People can go look up my old posts. I was thrilled when she was chosen as VP and I've been a supporter of hers. I just happen to think now that (1) Cain would be a better candidate, and (2) and the end of the day, she will decide against running (yea, it's a gut feeling and could be wrong, but I'm not going to stand still frozen in place waiting to find out an answer).

Nerds 4 Cain is in beta testing: www.nerds4cain.com

[Keith in Iowa]

>>>How much campaigning has Palin done in Iowa compared to Cain?

Cain has been here more since the first of the year, Sarah not not at all... but she has a grassroots organization that the polls don’t seem to factor in.

[Texas Fossil]

PPP Poll

Pure BS

Must have polled the Dems:

1. Mitt Romney polls at 21%

Forget NittWitt Mitt