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GM admits dealerships are committing fraud or at least being unethical.
1 posted on 05/31/2011 1:32:42 PM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 05/31/2011 1:34:07 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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That’s how the trouble started in Fargo.


3 posted on 05/31/2011 1:35:40 PM PDT by AU72
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Unethical car dealer?? Incompetent government program??

You're kidding me! Right?

4 posted on 05/31/2011 1:37:27 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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Ford, et al should SUE and make NATIONAL NEWS OUT OF THIS FRAUD.

I have said it right from the start- Obama didnt have to take over the entire auto industry, only ONE company.

Then use the power of the government to put the others out of business with tax scemes like this.


5 posted on 05/31/2011 1:37:39 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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Racketeering . . . in a corrupt organization? My, how surprising and unexpected.


6 posted on 05/31/2011 1:37:48 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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What are they going to do when at the end of the year when there's a firestorm of angry customers who thought they could take a $7,500 tax credit only to find they are not able to becase they technically bought a "used" car?

This probably does amount to fraud; I doubt the salesmen are telling customers they won't get the tax credit. I also wonder how many of these are "sold" to the same dealership (You know "Patterson Chevy/Kia"--a dealer that sells more than one brand) so the car is on the same lot with the other Chevies.

Not to worry, I'm sure the government will allow the tax credit to be issued twice against the same car, just to be fair (hey, it's only money--taxpayer money).


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7 posted on 05/31/2011 1:41:10 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain knows math, computers, pizza, money, hamburgers, banking, and Coca-Cola)
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This definitely explains why the dealers don't have any NEW Volts to sell to customers.
9 posted on 05/31/2011 1:44:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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I don't understand, everybody knows that government subsidies are for the benefit of crony capitalists, and Government Motors dealers that still exist were selected entirely on political criteria, so they qualify as crony capitalists. Everything is working exactly as intended in the government decree that stole Government Motors from the bond and stockholders.

Crony capitalism, the new spelling of fascism.

11 posted on 05/31/2011 1:46:07 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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Ping to GM tax credit rip off.


14 posted on 05/31/2011 1:51:25 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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The real question is whether the Obama administration deliberately didn’t exclude this practice upon lobbying by GM.


15 posted on 05/31/2011 1:53:22 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Ignores War Powers, law by auto-pen, 70 golf rounds, 'unexpected' economic news. 4 more yrs?)
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17 posted on 05/31/2011 1:57:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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The IRS form in its current form does not safeguard against double claiming of the tax credit.

By design?

Why not. The same car could be sold many times and the credit claimed by every buyer.

It would not be surprising to me that the IRS ends up giving more tax credits for the purchase of Volts in 2011 than were built by Chevy for the year.

18 posted on 05/31/2011 1:58:35 PM PDT by Pontiac
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GM is dead to me. They died in my eyes when the were the first in line for ZerO’s bailout express. I will never buy another GM product, used or new. I will look at Ford first, then Chrysler, then reluctantly at foreign if necessary. I have never owned a new foreign car.


19 posted on 05/31/2011 1:59:45 PM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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has anyone seen a chevyvolt in the wild?

anywhere?

how do other monthly car sales compare?


20 posted on 05/31/2011 2:00:12 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Thats very unexpected. I thought for sure GM would become very succesful when the feds stole the company from bondholders after management ran it into the ground before the boom ended. Not to mention selling crappy cars that cost 40 grand to build that come with tens of thousands of tax breaks. Thank you, Uncle Sam!!


22 posted on 05/31/2011 2:02:09 PM PDT by winodog
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...the Volt averaged a dismally low 425 per month for the first four months of the year...

Ah, this stunning sales victory from the same Central Planning Marxists that brought you Clunkernomics, eh?

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23 posted on 05/31/2011 2:07:41 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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So what is the real cost of this little beauty up to these days??

Have we broken the $75,000/unit mark yet?

Imagine what the 60 Minutes episode on the Volt will be like five years from now when someone finally gets to the bottom of this...


25 posted on 05/31/2011 2:13:14 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Your what hurts??)
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we need hearing on GM, hearings on the volt, hearings on everything this guys does. Why no hearings?? Obongo HATES to be questioned, it makes him furious and throws him off his game.

hearings hearings hearings.


30 posted on 05/31/2011 2:45:37 PM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on waivers NOW!)
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No VIN number, what to stop non buyers from claiming the credit?


31 posted on 05/31/2011 2:47:59 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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No VIN number, what to stop non buyers from claiming the credit?


32 posted on 05/31/2011 2:48:08 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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