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Then we go done swinging and go to plan B. I won't hold my nose again, I'll write her in.

But after the conversation I had with a female barber about how I could get an appointment via walk in (used to have to schedule ) and as she said "look at this place (the hair cutting floor was vacant of clients and the stylist were out chatting in the seating area) it is like a freakin' bowling alley, you could bowl in here".

The humblest of the blue collar types get how frigged up the economy is, no way in hell does he turn around in 18 months, Obama has hosed it that bad. Do you think she will pull the lever for him? Heck my dad pushing 80 pulled the R ticket for Scott Brown and then in Nov a straight R ticket, 1st time in his life. All his working buddies and their kids see nothing turning around, ya can't b.s. these guys.

IMHO I think my barber can relate to Palin more than Obama and his snob background....

Maybe Will should go get a trim where I get my hair cut...

This from an earlier Post of mine concering Palin's chances. Remember we are not talking about Palin on the issues, just her chances in a general election against Obama.

That would be Sarah Palin. No question.

What do you base that upon? I'm not saying you are wrong or right, I'm just asking what you base that upon. Because you are passionate about Palin doesn't translate to electoral votes on the first Tuesday in Nov 2012.

There are huge numbers of people who are gonna vote for Obama no matter what. Blacks are gonna vote 95% for Obama no matter what.

Hispanics are gonna vote 75-80% for Obama no matter what.

White Liberals are gonna vote for Obama 90% no matter what.

Asians are gonna vote for Obama 65% no matter what.

Under 30 people are stupid as the day is long and Obama is gonna win 65% or so of these voters.

What does this mean? It means that we could have 20% unemployment, 30% Inflation, Gas @$10/gal and Obama is still gonna get 40% of the vote. It means that the Republicans need to win over a huge percentage of Independent Voters to sweak out a victory in 2012. So because you are passionate about Palin doesn't mean a thing. Is she the type of person who can win the votes of these people? I don't know. Nobody knows if she can do this at a greater amount than the other candidates.

And please keep this in mind. You need 270 electoral votes to win. The Democrats already have California for sure with 55. Nothing can change that. Add New York, Illinois, most of New England and a few other places and Obama is already very close to 220. Many conservatives on this site are under the illusion that there is a huge pool of conservatives who stay home on election day because there are no candidates that they favor. ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. That's an illusion and a dangerous one at that. There are no vast amount of conservatives that stay at home election day just waiting for Sarah or someone like her. They don't exist in any significant numbers. And to the extent they do exist, they reside in states that the Republicans are gonna win anyhow.

So in conclusion I want to emphasize that people here need to understand that those here on FR are in a fairly small minority. Sarah Palin voters and supporters are gonna vote for any Republican who is nominated in 2012. Can she or any other Republican bring in new people? That's what the election is gonna depend on.