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Why Is The Economy So Bad?
The American Dream ^ | May 28 2011

Posted on 05/29/2011 3:58:14 AM PDT by GonzoII

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To: Spktyr

Blah blah blah.

You clearly have a stake in unlimited Chinese imports.

You represent what is wrong.


21 posted on 05/29/2011 4:24:15 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Great, slap on import tariffs. Suddenly the price of everything goes up 100%.

Why?

Because of all the stuff that we cannot make in the US any more. EPA regs mean that a ridiculous amount of capital goods require components, chemicals or treatments in other countries because it’s been banned here.


22 posted on 05/29/2011 4:25:37 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I clearly do?

LMAO!

I support US industry... when it isn’t supporting socialism.


23 posted on 05/29/2011 4:26:21 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: GonzoII
Eliminate every and all tax on American Business. Businesses worldwide will flock here to get the benefit of tax free operation, production, etc. Eliminate all unions and Americans will be hired right and left. We might not even have sufficient population to support the new business cycle. Then enact a rational immigration policy.

MEMO TO NEXT PRESIDENT: Hire me. I will do it. Just step aside and take the credit.

24 posted on 05/29/2011 4:28:03 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama is a foreigner. He must be impeached.)
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To: Yet_Again

Didn’t say it was the only factor. Just saying that it’s equally important as anything else mentioned in the articles.

Also, the unions manage to get themselves at key choke points - Honda, for example, has had problems with unionized US suppliers screwing things up.


25 posted on 05/29/2011 4:28:06 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: GonzoII

DC continues to do it wrong....here’s a link to how to do it right.

“Warren G. Harding cut government 50% and ended the Depression of 1920-21 in the shortest time span in history.”

http://www.thelandofthefree.net/conservativeopinion/2011/05/19/gdp-versus-debt/


26 posted on 05/29/2011 4:28:14 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: Spktyr

“Great, slap on import tariffs. Suddenly the price of everything goes up 100%.”

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Correction: suddenly the price of everything imported goes up 100%.

Works for me. That incents making things right here in America. No government meddling needed.

Just market forces.


27 posted on 05/29/2011 4:28:39 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: Rapscallion
Then enact a rational immigration policy.

A rational immigration policy in a country with 10%-15% unemployment involves catching and deporting all illegals and slamming the door shut on all potential immigrants who do not come bearing a $1,000,000 or more with an intent to start a local business. Oh, if I want to go to Canada or New Zealand to live as an American, that is the litmus test I'll have to pass...There are many places in the world that the price tag is quite a bit higher than $1,000,000.
28 posted on 05/29/2011 4:31:46 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No, it doesn’t.
See my other post. Even if you were correct, we would NOT be able to make those goods here due to EPA regulations.

Case in point is Glock, who does make firearms in the US. The Tenifer finish on their pistols is not especially dangerous or hazardous to apply and it’s non-toxic after it’s on - but they cannot apply it here because it is banned by the EPA. Their slides are brought in from Austria, where the finish is applied.

So, let’s say your tariffs come in. Glock (and others) needing this type finish on their products will still have to get their stuff imported because it will still be illegal.

All you have done is made everything more expensive without adding jobs, factories, or benefit to the economy.


29 posted on 05/29/2011 4:32:01 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: pnh102
Only one word is needed to answer this question:
0bama.

This is a ridiculous oversimplification of the problem. Our problems today are the cumulative result of 30 years of horrible economic policy and debt intoxication, and it is the result of Presidents and Congresses of BOTH PARTIES. Shoot, the main reason Social Security is such a bankrupt disaster now is the "reform" that Reagan signed, but nobody ever talks about that.

Yeah, Obama is a full-blown Marxist and is pouring gasoline on the fire, but he sure as heck didn't start the fire.

30 posted on 05/29/2011 4:33:17 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: mo

You have half the answer. Cutting government bureaucracy will make America a friendlier business climate, but it will not address the main cost of doing business here...labor that is (regardless of skill set or education) roughly 1000% or so more costly than it is in the third world. Only cutting government in this sort of an environment will merely add government workers to the unemployment line without stimulating local business.

Import tarriffs to account for this vast wage disparity are a critical element to a real solution.


31 posted on 05/29/2011 4:34:09 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Spktyr

Everything is always so complex and theoretical with you “free traders”.

That is why, our solution needs to be simple.

One flat, no exceptions, no loopholes, 100% import tariff on everything not made right here.

Could not be simpler. Let’s stop this disaster and bring jobs back to the United States of America. Keep our own food right here in America.

Keep our own dollars right here in America.

We’ve seen your way. It’s why we’re collapsing.


32 posted on 05/29/2011 4:34:53 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: GonzoII

Real Simple.... Because the Powers TO Be want it this way...


33 posted on 05/29/2011 4:37:13 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Uh... Nothing theoretical about it. That will really happen. It happened in the past when tariffs were placed on Japanese automobiles coming in to this country. It didn’t stop them, and it just made cars more expensive.

How much simpler do I have to make it? US products, due to EPA BULLCRAP, now often have many critical parts that simply cannot be legally made here!!!!! You pass that tariff, you make all those US products 100% more expensive!

What’s not to understand?


34 posted on 05/29/2011 4:41:42 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: GonzoII

We have to get Bozo-And-The-Freeloader out of the White House.


35 posted on 05/29/2011 4:42:24 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Spktyr

Enough talk.

Import tariffs. Now.


36 posted on 05/29/2011 4:42:39 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: GonzoII

Boeing wanted to open a factory in S.C. but the union and the feds said nope you can’t do it,however feel free to build it in another country.
Thank You card can be sent to Obama&Co.


37 posted on 05/29/2011 4:43:19 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Spktyr
You pass that tariff, you make all those US products 100% more expensive!

Only in a world where all US products are imported. What a tarriff does is disincentivize business to replace first world labor with third world labor by eliminating the profit margin that such a move allows. Oh, and the union/administration position on the Boeing plant in S.C. is dead wrong.
38 posted on 05/29/2011 4:49:55 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: GonzoII

GOP and Democrat Big Government and Globalism.


39 posted on 05/29/2011 4:50:19 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: pnh102

Will you admit it is Obama and the GOP? Maybe when they GOP helps raise taxes and calls it Revenue Enhancement you will understand.


40 posted on 05/29/2011 4:52:10 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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