Posted on 05/28/2011 1:49:58 AM PDT by petitfour
Records released by the Pima County Sheriff's Department this week show that the four houses served with search warrants the morning of May 5 - when Jose Guerena was shot and killed by a SWAT team - are less than four miles apart and are all connected to the Guerena family.
And while initial reports were that doctors told the Guerena family that Jose had been shot 60 times, the Pima County medical examiner's preliminary report says he was shot 22 times. In its sole briefing on the incident, the Sheriff's Department said SWAT team members fired 71 rounds.
Aside from releasing more than 500 pages of documents about the incident, the department has remained mum since the May 10 briefing.
The raid netted drugs, large amounts of cash, bulletproof vests, about 30 cellphones and a stolen vehicle, records show, but no arrests have been made.
(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...
You should be asking yourself that question. You are the one here lapping up everything the Government is telling you as the Gospel truth.
/////Can’t anyone in this country serve a warrant any more without the SWAT team kicking in the door? ////
it’s safer for the “SWAT” guys to kick in the doors....a few innocent civilians get killed along the way but hey.....that’s just the cost of doing business.....and DON’T YOU DARE QUESTION IT!!!
You simply don’t understand the criminal justice system.
Evidence from the investigation is shown to the judge. The judge makes the determination if the evidence is sufficient to issue a warrant.
(Oh, wait all of the judges are in on the conspiracy too, lol)
Ok, Ive had enough fun for one day, I’ll let you guys hash out and weave your conspiracy theories together to make sense of all of this.
Lucky dog.....good job here on this thread, BTW.
;)
I have a friend that wears a border patrol cap occasionally, just to mess with the illegal aliens that he is forced to work with..
If it "sticks in your craw", THIS will really 'get your goat
Come to think of it, I have some Maricopa Co. Sheriffs Dept. stuff that Joe Arpaio himself 'gave' me for a nice little donation to one of his charity fundraisers years and years ago. I suppose that after a swat team kills me, that will be used as prima facie evidence that I am a bad guy.
“LOL. You are correct and it is as irrelevant as hell.
The officers saw him pointing his AR at them. They deserve the benefit of the doubt in that situation as they are the only one’s there.”
I would have to say YOUR statement is what is irrelevant. The real issue here is: why are heavily armed paramilitary teams being used to serve search warrants on citizens with NO record, and not even enough evidence beforehand, or even weeks afterward, to justify an arrest, as the police have readily admitted?
Good Lord, does ANYONE not know someone somehow connected to “trouble” in one form or another, past or present? Would not most men, awakened from deep sleep by a wife screaming that men with guns were trying to break in, not attempt to defend their family? I highly doubt that Guerena was even 100% awake when the bullets started hitting him — this happened in seconds.
Use of SWAT teams in this short-cut fashion, instead of competent police / detective work, is EXACTLY what is all wrong about this. It is a sure fire recipe for tradgedy and travesty.
(Have you read the story about the 92 year old grandma in Atlanta who managed to kill one SWAT team member and wound another before they hosed her, apparently still in her nightgown and using a walker?)
The “jackbooting” is not so much the SWAT team members themselves, though I must say they were beyond imcompetent. (If you watch & analyze the video carefully, Guerena could have easily blown several of them away if he really was a “bad ass” and prepared.) The real evil, or “wrong”, whatever you want to call it, is at a higher level.
Oh I understand this UNCONSTITUTIONAL system very well....evidently, much better than you do ;-)
Have a good weekend.
It might be a good idea FOR ALL OF YOU COP HATERS...to wait for more information to come out on this
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You are a very disingenuous and scary individual.
So others understand, on another thread you already had the dead homeowner guilty and when asked how you knew this since the dead guy could not speak for himself and there had not been a trial, you repeatedly evaded the question and refused to answer.
*You* are a real piece of work.
“I’m calling this drug dealing dirt bag a former fricking Marine.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2726119/posts?page=230#230
Thanks for the "good job" and the same back to you. Time to take a break here so here's hoping you enjoy the weekend.
BTW you could make me very jealous if you told me you've had more than five or six days above 60 degrees this year. It's freezin' up here still! lol
Ya see what this guy wrote above Ron?
Now See post #269 Ron.
Evidence from the investigation is shown to the judge. The judge makes the determination if the evidence is sufficient to issue a warrant.
Officer Lied to Obtain Warrant in Fatal Shooting
See how easy it is to poke holes in your hypothesis? Another INNOCENT victim murdered by a lie!
In fact I quit posting on them after a particularly nasty one a few years back.
One problem I think gets overlooked too easily is that our institutions have been under attack for a lot of years now.
Whether it be by affirmative action, lowering standards and test scores to get certain people in, politics and budgets, PC etc., they have been corrupted. I mean how many Pete Malloy's and Jim Reed's do you see these days?
Our police force is not what it was 30 years ago, by design if you ask me.
I has intentionally been turned into an us against them mentality...I should also mention that the Unions and illegal immigration with intentionally open boarders has had a huge effect in this too.
JMHO, of course.
My blood is boiling, grrrrr.
I completely agree with you.
LOL...I think it got DOWN TO 61 last night.
Have a great weekend!
It’s been in the 90’s here.....and the water is just right.....LOL
(All) Normally I would not cross-thread, but this seems to be a special instance.
Well now “B_F”. Speaking of how people look. How about your posts over here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2725824/posts?q=1&;page=101
You: “I noticed more than a few people in several threads over the past few days on this topic openly wish Death on me.”
And my request (subsequently repeated by others): “Please document this for us and also report it to the Mods, documenting that to us too. I am sure appropriate action will be taken. There is no place on FR for anything even approaching a threat of any sort.”
To which of course there has been no answer. But you’ve been on this thread, blathering away, many hours later.
As was said on Babylon 5 “You can run, but you can’t hide.”
Cheers!
Prove you didn't just pick your nose and eat it.
No, the burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused. That USED to be the law in America.
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