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All four homes in raid tied to Guerena family
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 6/28/2011 | Fernanda Echavarri

Posted on 05/28/2011 1:49:58 AM PDT by petitfour

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To: Cvengr
Hi, Cvenger -

There also were eyewitness testimonials of coworkers who had shared the same shift in the mine with the Marine, indicating he was a man with virtue.

Do you (or anyone else) have links for that? I was puzzled to not find any commentary (either way) from co-workers when I searched for that. This is not a "challenge" - I am truly interested in turning up more facts about this case, because it appears a great injustice was done. Thanks.

221 posted on 05/28/2011 11:01:05 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Cvengr
Hi, Cvenger -

There also were eyewitness testimonials of coworkers who had shared the same shift in the mine with the Marine, indicating he was a man with virtue.

Do you (or anyone else) have links for that? I was puzzled to not find any commentary (either way) from co-workers when I searched for that. This is not a "challenge" - I am truly interested in turning up more facts about this case, because it appears a great injustice was done. Thanks.

222 posted on 05/28/2011 11:01:15 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: rbmillerjr

Another thing....if, as you keep posting, this was such a righteous raid, how come there haven’t been any arrests made as a result of it?


223 posted on 05/28/2011 11:02:03 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: TigersEye
Do you agree with Hitler that tobacco is bad for you?

Interesting. I bring up Soros and you try to deflect by bringing up Hitler!

224 posted on 05/28/2011 11:02:26 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

“That legalization will increase the size of government and the amount of obtrusion on the private citizen?”

Legalisation would result in mass layoffs at the DEA and the ending of no knock drug raids that result in the deaths of innocents.

“And of course you agree with Soros?”

Even a broken clock is right twice a day...

Of course...I hear Soros wears pants....I bet you wear pants too....

Do you agree with Soros on the wearing of pants?


225 posted on 05/28/2011 11:03:50 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“You have ABSOLUTELY NO proof that the dead man did any such thing!!! That’s completely conjecture on your part.”

The facts as stated from the officers state he did indeed.

That’s not conjecture.


226 posted on 05/28/2011 11:04:42 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: Crim

Why are you aruing against WB’s ideas and defending Soros on his pro-drug efforts.


227 posted on 05/28/2011 11:05:35 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: Crim

You do realize that to Soros, drug legalization is more than just a utopian idea, it is his way to get your money from you to him.


228 posted on 05/28/2011 11:06:50 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Let me get this straight, you’ve been posting ridiculous crap all throughout this thread on the assumption that evidence and facts unknown to you at this point will emerge in the future? Do I have that right? “

No. You’re probably just F’d up on drugs.


229 posted on 05/28/2011 11:06:56 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“Another thing....if, as you keep posting, this was such a righteous raid, how come there haven’t been any arrests made as a result of it?”

Patience is a virtue.


230 posted on 05/28/2011 11:09:51 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: rbmillerjr

“The facts as stated from the officers”

Right...and cops would never lie to cover their asses...

Nah...


231 posted on 05/28/2011 11:10:03 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: rbmillerjr
The facts as stated from the officers state he did indeed.

Yeah, cause cops NEVER lie (think Dupnik)

I read somewhere the wife stated her husband did not own an AR, only the .38.

232 posted on 05/28/2011 11:11:45 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Crim

“and cops would never lie to cover their asses...”

Druggies lie more often. Right?


233 posted on 05/28/2011 11:15:56 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: rbmillerjr; 2nd amendment mama
Patience is a virtue.

AKA they need more time to plant evidence and concoct a story line to fit it.

234 posted on 05/28/2011 11:16:10 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: rbmillerjr
The facts as stated from the officers state he did indeed.

I'm sorry but since the officers' stories have been changing (some have lied) since the start of this whole debacle, I'm not taking as fact anything they are stating. I prefer to say that they "alleged" that he pointed a gun at them....just like I prefer to say "alleged" criminal when referring to Guerena as opposed to you who keeps stating, as fact, that he wasn't innocent.

235 posted on 05/28/2011 11:16:27 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: rbmillerjr
No. You’re probably just F’d up on drugs.

LOL, just the response I was expecting......I don't do drugs.

236 posted on 05/28/2011 11:17:48 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“I read somewhere the wife stated her husband did not own an AR, only the .38. “

LMAO. REALLY.....hehehehe bwaaaaaaaa


237 posted on 05/28/2011 11:18:01 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: rbmillerjr; Las Vegas Ron
No. You’re probably just F’d up on drugs.

There you go again - making assumptions. You're the F'd up one!

238 posted on 05/28/2011 11:19:24 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Paul R.

Sorry - I have no idea why that double posted!


239 posted on 05/28/2011 11:19:50 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Shannon; Berlin_Freeper
So finding a "bag of marijuana" in the oven at one house justifies killing a man in a different house? Sorry Berlin but you're the one not making a whole lot of sense.

Over twenty years ago, my brother and my sister's husband were both invovled with the use and distribution of drugs.

Fortunately, I was serving in the Air Force and stationed overseas; otherwise, Berlin_Freeper would have said that their behavior might justify a SWAT Team kicking in my door and shooting me.

240 posted on 05/28/2011 11:20:03 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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