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Sarah Palin sparks 2012 elections speculation
POLITICO ^ | 05/25/11 | ANDY BARR

Posted on 05/27/2011 3:51:37 PM PDT by reformjoy

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To: humblegunner

“Media notwithstanding, my point is that not everyone who dislikes a candidate - or potential candidate - does so out of fear.”

In that you are right.


81 posted on 05/28/2011 4:15:08 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: truthguy
We need to nominate that candidate who have the best shot at knocking off Obama.

That would be Sarah Palin. No question.

82 posted on 05/28/2011 6:11:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
We need to nominate that candidate who have the best shot at knocking off Obama.

That would be Sarah Palin. No question.

What do you base that upon? I'm not saying you are wrong or right, I'm just asking what you base that upon. Because you are passionate about Palin doesn't translate to electoral votes on the first Tuesday in Nov 2012.

There are huge numbers of people who are gonna vote for Obama no matter what. Blacks are gonna vote 95% for Obama no matter what.

Hispanics are gonna vote 75-80% for Obama no matter what.

White Liberals are gonna vote for Obama 90% no matter what.

Asians are gonna vote for Obama 65% no matter what.

Under 30 people are stupid as the day is long and Obama is gonna win 65% or so of these voters.

What does this mean? It means that we could have 20% unemployment, 30% Inflation, Gas @$10/gal and Obama is still gonna get 40% of the vote. It means that the Republicans need to win over a huge percentage of Independent Voters to sweak out a victory in 2012. So because you are passionate about Palin doesn't mean a thing. Is she the type of person who can win the votes of these people? I don't know. Nobody knows if she can do this at a greater amount than the other candidates.

And please keep this in mind. You need 270 electoral votes to win. The Democrats already have California for sure with 55. Nothing can change that. Add New York, Illinois, most of New England and a few other places and Obama is already very close to 220. Many conservatives on this site are under the illusion that there is a huge pool of conservatives who stay home on election day because there are no candidates that they favor. ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. That's an illusion and a dangerous one at that. There are no vast amount of conservatives that stay at home election day just waiting for Sarah or someone like her. They don't exist in any significant numbers. And to the extent they do exist, they reside in states that the Republicans are gonna win anyhow.

So in conclusion I want to emphasize that people here need to understand that those here on FR are in a fairly small minority. Sarah Palin voters and supporters are gonna vote for any Republican who is nominated in 2012. Can she or any other Republican bring in new people? That's what the election is gonna depend on.
83 posted on 05/29/2011 11:48:58 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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"That would be Sarah Palin. No question."

What do you base that upon? I'm not saying you are wrong or right, I'm just asking what you base that upon. Because you are passionate about Palin doesn't translate to electoral votes on the first Tuesday in Nov 2012.

Sheeesh, friend, you're asking me for a dissertation, and I just ain't up to it at the moment.

You're a long time Freeper. You read here every day. You can't possibly have missed the hundreds upon hundreds of articles related to Palin over the last two+ years. If you've read most of them (as I have), and have closely tracked the thousands of opinions and data points therein, you already know the answer to the question you're asking.

You may as well be asking me why water's wet, or why the sun is hot. It just is, and you can trek backwards to discover all of the reasons why, if you like.

The fact is, there simply isn't anyone running for the presidency who can hold a candle to Sarah Palin. The nomination and the White House are hers for the taking, if she decides that's what she needs to do for her country.

Millions upon millions stand ready to catapult her to the top, just as soon as she gives the word. She is an historic figure, of a type that has rarely been seen in US politics. The people perceive this about her, and resonate with her at a core level. No other US politician has this effect on people. None - including Zero.

She also has the right stuff when it comes to solid, real life qualifications for the office. Score all of the prospective contenders on a host of key qualifications, and Palin outdoes them all. This really isn't rocket science.

84 posted on 05/29/2011 12:09:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Millions upon millions stand ready to catapult her to the top, just as soon as she gives the word. She is an historic figure, of a type that has rarely been seen in US politics. The people perceive this about her, and resonate with her at a core level. No other US politician has this effect on people. None - including Zero.

You haven't given me one fact that makes Palin a better candidate to knock off Obama than a number of the others. Those millions who will vote for Palin are gonna vote for any Republican. Historical Figure? Upon reflection don't you think that's a little over the top? Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln, those are historical figures. You've put her in with those people? Give me a break.

I may have an advantage on you. I live in the SF Bay area. I'm in a sea of liberalism. I have liberal relatives, friends, and co-workers. So I'm exposed to many people who aren't conservatives and don't post on FR. I listen to talk radio and the opinions of lots of people who do not share my very conservative views. So when I hear about the countless number of conservatives who are stimulated by Palin, I don't see it. Remember an enthusiastic vote is counted the same as a lackadaisical vote.
85 posted on 05/29/2011 12:30:41 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: truthguy
You haven't given me one fact that makes Palin a better candidate to knock off Obama than a number of the others.

No, and it's not my job to give you the facts. If you're still wanting for facts and well-reasoned conclusions about the GOP field, and where Palin stands in it at this point, I can't help you.

Study period is over, my friend. The game is on, and you'd better take what you've got and choose whom to support.

86 posted on 05/29/2011 2:02:11 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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