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To: driftdiver

Yep, many like you and me, are losing lots of respect...Rapidly.


294 posted on 05/27/2011 6:48:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: dragnet2; hfr

I like what “HFR” posted on another thread:

“What I’m hearing about the video is that it is prima facie evidence that the swat team should be indited.
The standard operating procedure - following the rules, itself constitutes prima facie evidence that what we have here is a violation of civil rights. These procedures, fitting for a battlefield assault on enemy lines, have only a very tiny justification in only the most extreme situations.

1. Perfunctory announcement.
2. Immediate breaching of the premises.
3. Immediate violent and deadly resort to weapons.

These things show themselves to have no place in a Constitutional republic.

A warrant for this type of action should only be issued upon presentation of compelling evidence that a crime of horrific dimensions exists.

Ostensible reasons like “preservation of evidence” or other canards cannot justify this.

To repeat what I said, that this is a “standard operating” procedure instead of a desperate last resort in the face of monstrous crime, is prima facie evidence that the people who have designed and planned this kind of police activity should be indited for crimes against our Constitution. As for those who carry it out, Nuremberg’s principal applies, following orders is not a justification for doing wrong.

The other day there was a post about Thomas Jefferson, it gave a number of examples of his thinking - very pithy quotes. How far have we fallen from our ideals. But when we let “experts” run the show that’s what we get. It is an axiom that war is too important to be left to generals. I’d add that law is too important for lawyers, policing is too important to leave to police, government is too important to leave to politicians and bureaucrats, on and on. The only people the Founders trusted with their liberties, and the preservation of the same was the “People”. The Bill of Rights indicates that the Founders did not trust their liberties to the “representatives of the people in congress”.”


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2725884/posts?page=22


312 posted on 05/27/2011 7:45:17 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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