The timeline below was taken from a different video, but it covers the points if you combine the video and the wife’s statements:
Guy in bed.
0+6 Siren or car alarm goes off for 8 seconds.
0+14 Doesn’t pay much attention, but wife shows up saying she’s scared.
0+20 Rolls out of bed. Grabs rifle and tells the wife to hide.
0+28 Leaves bedroom.
0+30 End of hall, looking at the door.
Between 0+20 & 0+30, the police are saying something...identifying themselves, but hard to understand from the guy standing outdoors & 20 feet away. During this time, the guy is probably in his bedroom & talking with his wife. He’s probably been up for 10 seconds or so. Odds of hearing the cops? Not great.
0+33 Door opens from kicks.
0+40 Cops open fire.
What was the guy doing between 0+33 & 0+40? Well, he’s probably been awake for under 30 seconds. He probably been out of the bedroom for 10 seconds. The safety is on.
At 0+40, the cops open fire. The guy has not shot, but they see a man with a gun and the cops react.
Now for the sake of argument, let’s suppose this happened to me. The wife wakes me and tells me someone is at the door trying to get in. There was a car alarm or siren - don’t know which. I’d grab my 44 and go to look, and would probably get to the door about the time the cops came thru.
I would probably start to raise my gun, realize they were cops, and be lowering it at the same time the bullets start hitting me. Dead over a warrant served by incompetents.
Should it be legal to serve a warrant in a way that practically guarantees the death of the person inside, assuming the person was surprised and predisposed to protect his home and family?
Could a reasonable person, with 30 seconds of thinking, figure out a way of serving the warrant with less danger to all involved?
I don’t care if this ex-Marine was guilty as sin - was this the way a reasonable person serves a warrant?
Does firing 71 shots indicate a well trained unit? When I was in Afghanistan, we were told to use 3 round bursts, not full auto. The Army told us that if you didn’t hit with the first three, continued spraying was just a waste of ammo.
Once the cops were in the door and saw him with a gun, they were bound to shoot - but why did it have to reach that point to begin with? In the same circumstances, the cops would almost certainly find me with a revolver still in my hand and shoot me, and I’m very law abiding - so how can those procedures be right?
At least you’re looking at the facts here.
Most of the people on this thread are spewing out loaded terms illustrating they think all police officers are jack-booted thugs and nazi control officers...a figment of their weak minds. Facts are tough and bogeymen are easy.
The background is that this was one of four raids with warrants on a drug gang. Large amounts of cash, drugs, and a Border Agent hat were found.
They don’t just handout huge warrants on 4 houses for nothing.
I’m not even taking a side on this until more information is known. But some of the ridiculous comments on here are just disgraceful.
>> I would probably start to raise my gun, realize they were cops, and be lowering it at the same time the bullets start hitting me. Dead over a warrant served by incompetents. <<
It takes you EIGHT SECONDS to lower your gun? And can I just say that if someone has just firmly knocked on your door the way police pound, you’re pretty damned stupid if you haven’t supposed by then that it’s the police. Believe me, I’ve had police pound on my door. There’s no mistaking a police knock. He should have at least not been at all surprised that they were police.
“I would probably start to raise my gun, realize they were cops, and be lowering it at the same time the bullets start hitting me. Dead over a warrant served by incompetents.
Should it be legal to serve a warrant in a way that practically guarantees the death of the person inside, assuming the person was surprised and predisposed to protect his home and family?
Could a reasonable person, with 30 seconds of thinking, figure out a way of serving the warrant with less danger to all involved?
I don’t care if this ex-Marine was guilty as sin - was this the way a reasonable person serves a warrant?”
To the amoral idiots defending this, the answer is yes. The victim was ripped to shreds by bullets in a completely acceptable manner.
No explaining human depravity.