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Mandatory vehicle 'black-boxes' under consideration
WRGB-TV ^ | 5/26/11

Posted on 05/26/2011 6:49:41 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: mo; Spktyr
gotta have that “black box.....so ya can do this...

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/31/oregon-governor-looking-at-gps-based-mileage-tax-to-fund-roads/

ding...ding...ding...we have a winner...

dont forget the auto speedtrap info, 'complete' stop at intersections and multiple use fees for registration when commutin to differin counties too often...etc...etc...etc...

101 posted on 05/27/2011 7:43:49 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: mylife
Soon, a guy wont be able to take a wizz in the woods without the event being recorded.

Our new government IS efficient! You can relieve that pressure on your bladder and make an editorial statement about the powers that be all at the same time!

102 posted on 05/27/2011 8:59:14 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: MissMack99
A perfect Black Market will araise: altering or deactivating the software in the black box. They’ll probably outsource the work to India which means 65% of the time they’ll be faulty anyway.

But no worse than the originals cause that's what the OEMs did too....

103 posted on 05/27/2011 9:06:58 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: eyedigress

205K on my F-150 and running strong!


104 posted on 05/27/2011 9:10:39 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: eyedigress
Keepin' the good ol'workhosres running in their face is the best protest(& it's not that hard, a little knowledge & elbow grease keeps going to at least 500,000).

Plus , as you get better at it you can customize your ride to your liking even better than the new crap that's really being spurted out souly to enhance some porkers bottom line.

105 posted on 05/27/2011 9:22:24 AM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: markomalley

Dear Impeachable scum government politicians and unaccountable regulators. I will either disable, remove or otherwise ruin this box. I will not allow you to track me, or anything else and constantly invade my privacy with your ever bigger brother eyes.


106 posted on 05/27/2011 10:03:57 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: markomalley

These “black Boxes” are ALREADY in modern cars. Have been since about the model year 2000.


107 posted on 05/27/2011 12:17:41 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: markomalley
Unlike aircraft 'black-boxes' the vehicle data recorders do not make audio recordings.

Yet.

108 posted on 05/27/2011 4:04:10 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: lentulusgracchus
"That's only 125 days .... ?"

...probably not bad for a small gas engine (13 horse). We'll only use it for about a half hour once every few days. PV (solar) works for the rest. In two or three years, we'll probably build a PV power plant for a slower well pump (no batteries necessary with cistern water storage instead). I hear the Grundfos pumps for that are pretty good. After that, the generator will only be for arc welding once in a while.


109 posted on 05/27/2011 5:11:36 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: familyop
In two or three years, we'll probably build a PV power plant for a slower well pump

In the oil patch, those long-stroke pump jacks typically are driven by simple engines that run on natural gas and only hit one or two licks per RPM. The gas source is casinghead gas (co-produced and evolving naturally off the oil; it also contains evaporated liquids which are sometimes recovered separately by refrigeration units, or can be burned in the prime mover). If you're in the right part of the country to access natural gas from e.g. the Wolfcamp Shale or another shale formation. You wouldn't need to do all the fancy horizontal drilling -- enough comes out of the shale to be a real nuisance to drilling operators drilling on down to deeper objectives, but just about right for your purposes -- if you're in an area where the Barnett, Eagleford, or Wolfcamp is reachable easily with water-well equipment you could lease, you might look into it; after all, if it's under your property, it's your gas. And if you get too much gas flow and pressures start to build, well, you can connect to your gas utility and run it into their system -- making your meter go backwards. People have done that.

110 posted on 05/27/2011 5:53:58 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: allmost
Fry those effers in a few minutes. Fail.

They will make the black-box function part of the computer that runs your car. You won't be able to disable it and still have the car run.

111 posted on 05/27/2011 6:00:59 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625

I’ll get her running. ;)


112 posted on 05/27/2011 6:04:17 PM PDT by allmost
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To: lentulusgracchus
"In the oil patch, those long-stroke pump jacks typically are driven by simple engines that run on natural gas and only hit one or two licks per RPM. The gas source is casinghead gas (co-produced and evolving naturally off the oil; it also contains evaporated liquids which are sometimes recovered separately by refrigeration units, or can be burned in the prime mover). If you're in the right part of the country to access natural gas from e.g. the Wolfcamp Shale or another shale formation. You wouldn't need to do all the fancy horizontal drilling -- enough comes out of the shale to be a real nuisance to drilling operators drilling on down to deeper objectives, but just about right for your purposes -- if you're in an area where the Barnett, Eagleford, or Wolfcamp is reachable easily with water-well equipment you could lease, you might look into it; after all, if it's under your property, it's your gas. And if you get too much gas flow and pressures start to build, well, you can connect to your gas utility and run it into their system -- making your meter go backwards. People have done that."

Thanks! That looks like a great tip for anyone who has a shale formation that's not far down. I wish that were feasible for a resident here, but it's likely very much deeper in my area (near a mile). Drilling only for water is overpriced here (tourism, retirees, Rockies).

That is one excellent idea, though, for anyone who's in a better place for it.


113 posted on 05/27/2011 6:28:46 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: familyop

My ‘64 Fury with a Push-Button Trans and a 318 will be my “Red Barchetta” until the coming storm.


114 posted on 05/27/2011 7:06:18 PM PDT by gigster
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To: TXnMA

I haven’t had that problem. I replaced the front axle for 75 bucks and changed the tranny fluid which IS a definite requirement for these guys every 50,000. Timing and hoses every 100,000.


115 posted on 05/27/2011 7:31:20 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: de.rm

Putting tires on it is what gets me. It needs a couple in front plus an alignment. I’ll go ahead and do it. I may keep this guy up just for the antique plates alone. LOL!


116 posted on 05/27/2011 7:40:15 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: gigster

Lucky dog. My sister had a push-button dodge. It got left at a grocer in Great Falls in 1979.


117 posted on 05/27/2011 7:41:55 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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