[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

So you got a medicare reform deficit reduction bill where only those over 65 get medicare, but he says no-one over 55 will be affected by the bill. Think that will work?

You wrote "he says...." but it is true that those over 55 would stay on the old plan (according to this bill that will not become law). I'm not sure whether you meant:

1) that he was incorrect, or

2) that what he said was true, but that it's a preposterous argument because the Ryan Plan is unacceptable.

In my opinion, chances are slim to none of any fiscally responsible entitlement reform becoming law in the next couple of years, although they might pass something that claims to be such. And politicians who propose entitlement reform are a great risk of giving their opponents a terrible political weapon (that's why Obama's COMMISSION ON FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND REFORM used retired politicians like Simpson).

[sickoflibs]

RE :” So you got a medicare reform deficit reduction bill where only those over 65 get medicare, but he says no-one over 55 will be affected by the bill. Think that will work?
You wrote “he says....” but it is true that those over 55 would stay on the old plan (according to this bill that will not become law). I'm not sure whether you meant: 1) that he was incorrect, or ...”

He actually said :”No one over 55 will see any changes under this plan”, LOL hey that will be me when I retire. No he didnt say “No one CURRENTLY over 55 will see any changes under this (medicare reform) plan”. Shows what pile of crap they threw themselves into.

My only guess is Boehner let them do this because he needs their votes on the real compromise bills that we wont like that will actually be law.

[Marine_Uncle]

"In my opinion, chances are slim to none of any fiscally responsible entitlement reform becoming law in the next couple of years, although they might pass something that claims to be such. And politicians who propose entitlement reform are a great risk of giving their opponents a terrible political weapon (that's why Obama's COMMISSION ON FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND REFORM used retired politicians like Simpson)."
DITTOS. And few are prepared to actually enact the crossing of the Rubicon.