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Abortions on Disabled Babies: The Prenatal Testing Sham
Life News ^ | 5/25/11 | Mark W. Leach

Posted on 05/25/2011 4:11:14 PM PDT by wagglebee

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Some have argued that this impact is modern-day eugenics. Certainly the halving of future generations, with abortions being performed purely because of the genetic makeup of the child, sounds of eugenics. But the test developers, and many others, are quick to point out that the testing itself is purely informative.

It can only be described as eugenics, the entire culture of death is based on eugenics.

1 posted on 05/25/2011 4:11:15 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 05/25/2011 4:11:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 05/25/2011 4:13:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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My child was diagnosed in the womb with a 75% chance of Downes with just a blood test. I chose to not pursue any other tests because I said it didn’t make any difference. He is now a perfectly healthy 18 year old.


4 posted on 05/25/2011 4:15:50 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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P.S. I should add he DID NOT have Downes.


5 posted on 05/25/2011 4:16:36 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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6 posted on 05/25/2011 4:20:06 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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A guy I know has a Downes daughter. It’s not easy but it’s a blessing.


7 posted on 05/25/2011 4:21:36 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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The instances of false positives on the Down prenatal test are absurdly high.
8 posted on 05/25/2011 4:22:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Purely informative. They can’t even be honest about their desire to kill all the less than “perfect” humans. They don’t want to admit their kinship with the Mater Race people.


9 posted on 05/25/2011 4:31:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Dear wagglebee,

Yet, I don't think that it's unreasonable for parents to desire to know during pregnancy that they will be having a special needs child.

I remember when our AFP test came back indicating an elevated risk for Down Syndrome for our oldest. The moron nurse midwife wrongly read the statistical result as an 80% chance of our son having Down. In that we'd previously been diagnosed years before as infertile, it was an especially difficult thing to hear.

We had no intention of killing our son. And we were pretty damned offended when it was suggested to us that we might wish to avail ourselves of that “choice.” Yet, we desired to learn all we could to take care of our child, and if he really had Down Syndrome, we wanted to find out, to start to learn and prepare. We also wanted time to prepare our families. We also would have likely searched out some sort of support group, because, you know, we were about to become first-time parents at a somewhat advanced age after many years of disappointment, and we were kind of shaky about being first-time parents even to a child born normal and healthy. We really, really needed the support if that's where things were going.

But if he didn't, we didn't want to spend months learning about something not relevant to caring for him. We didn't want to tell our families about the possibility. We didn't want to join support groups without knowing for sure what was going to happen.

We tested - he didn't have Down Syndrome. It turned out that the reading of the results by the nurse midwife was confused. It wasn't that he was 80% likely to have Down Syndrome, but rather that his risk was 80% greater than average. Instead of having a risk of about 1/3 of 1%, the risk was about a bit over 1/2 of 1%.

Well, our son was not born with Down Syndrome. If the initial test results had been handled properly, we wouldn't have done the additional testing.

But it isn't quite right to use a broad brush that everyone who wants to definitively know is thinking of killing their child.

There can be a legitimate desire for more and better knowledge.

This new test discussed in the article actually eliminates risk of a miscarriage. It can be a blessing. That many will use it for horrible evil does not mean everyone has that intention.


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10 posted on 05/25/2011 4:43:36 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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**But the regime of prenatal testing for Down syndrome is exposed for the sham that it is when the double standard within prenatal testing is considered. In 2007, the same year that the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) recommended that all women be offered testing for Down syndrome, ACOG’s ethics committee issued an opinion finding that prenatal testing for sex selection was unethical. **

Forget the testing. God is in control.


11 posted on 05/25/2011 4:48:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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You are proof of the double-edged sword of testing. May many other mothers have your courage.


12 posted on 05/25/2011 4:50:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I agree that the test can certainly be useful for parents who want to be prepared for a special needs baby. However, the fact remains that nearly all Down Syndrome babies are aborted and this would indicated that parents ARE NOT using the tests to prepare for a disabled child.

90% of Down Syndrome Children Aborted, Survivors Bring Joy

Down syndrome a modern-day death sentence


13 posted on 05/25/2011 4:52:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The same arguments for prenatal testing for Down syndrome can be made for prenatal testing for sex selection.

Sorry but that's idiotic. Girls are healthy people, people with Down syndrome are not. If nothing else a person with Down syndrome cannot have children and carry a family line forward.

14 posted on 05/25/2011 4:54:31 PM PDT by wendy1946 (Bork Obunga; Before he borks you...)
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If nothing else a person with Down syndrome cannot have children and carry a family line forward.

Females with Down Syndrome are not any more likely to be sterile than other women.

Men with Down Syndrome are almost always sterile (there have been two documented cases of men with Down Syndrome fathering children).

15 posted on 05/25/2011 4:57:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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When Mrs SV was pregnant with our youngest the doctors asked if we wanted the genetic testing. We said no and they went ahead and ran the tests anyway. Later when the baby was due to be born via C-section they asked my wife at least 4 times if she wanted to have her tubes tied. Finally my very meek wife snapped at them that she had told them no and she wasn’t changing her mind.


16 posted on 05/25/2011 5:03:17 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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Dear wagglebee,

Yes, I know the statistics. I wonder how much of a problem is caused by pro-life folks sort of “abandoning the field” of testing to the pro-aborts. This article, and many of the posts herein, betray an attitude of scorn toward anyone who has a felt need to get the testing done.

I wonder how many folks who are on the line about killing their unborn child could readily be persuaded not to, if only a pro-life person didn't heap scorn on them for wanting to test further.


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17 posted on 05/25/2011 5:05:49 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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Prenatal testing for down’s is silly because even if you killed all of them, it would still appear in the population.


18 posted on 05/25/2011 5:07:16 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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Prepare the gas for the untermenschen?


19 posted on 05/25/2011 5:07:58 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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You've certainly given me a lot to consider.
20 posted on 05/25/2011 5:08:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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