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To: mwl8787; sickoflibs; jeltz25; Longbow1969; Dave W; Notary Sojac; gusty; FredZarguna; ncalburt; ...
This is the fault of Corwin not understanding the Ryan plan, and now we will have to listen to this Mediscare crap for 18 months. This is a political disaster. I’d rather have lost the judgeship in Wisconsin.

I have heard GOP "wise men" like Krauthammer say that the GOP can defend the Ryan plan, but candidates like Corwin don't know how.

What should she have said? At this point, just stating that we are going broke and the GOP is going to save entitlements with vouchers probably gets shouted down. The GOP House did not get the public on its side before passing the Ryan plan, but my question is what should they say now????

One suggestion is that candidates could say that it didn't (and won't) become law, unlike Obamacare, which is law and will cut entitlements. But isn't that surrendering to US bankruptcy?

241 posted on 05/25/2011 1:20:57 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; mwl8787; sickoflibs; jeltz25; Longbow1969; Dave W; Notary Sojac; ...
RE :”I have heard GOP “wise men” like Krauthammer say that the GOP can defend the Ryan plan, but candidates like Corwin don't know how. What should she have said? At this point, just stating that we are going broke and the GOP is going to save entitlements with vouchers probably gets shouted down. The GOP House did not get the public on its side before passing the Ryan plan, but my question is what should they say now????

I couldnt have put it better. These types of sinking ships do not usually come back up. Republicans gave Democrats the perfect scenario, to claim :"it's all about how Republicans are trying to screw the voters with the Ryan plan." I dont see them changing the national news theme/debate to Obama's plan/lack of plan now, like they needed to do first. I bet many of these newer congressman/candidates just believed the hype that American fundamentially changed 180 degrees since the 2008 election of Obama, from socialists to libertarians.

Republicans needed to lay the groundwork for proposing this long before doing it. They pretty much ran on protecting medicare and cutting Obama-care and cutting other liberal stuff, then they get elected and decide :”We got a mandate to (effectively) eliminate Medicare.” Then Democrats attack (who could expect that?) and Rs say :”No, we are not eliminated it, we are saving medicare” JEEZE! saving it?

To lay the groundwork they needed to make a case for everything in the budget, why are the changes necessary, why are all the tax cuts necessary, what will happen if we don't do them all and they needed to make it specific an visual. I called Ryan's office about a month ago to tell them they were losing it. Talk about a screw-up.

245 posted on 05/25/2011 1:54:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“I have heard GOP “wise men” like Krauthammer say that the GOP can defend the Ryan plan”

The GOP needs to stop defending the Ryan plan and start attacking the dims but the GOP is too afraid to go on offense. Pound the dims daily for their despicable dissembling and lack of a scorable budget. Today Ryan was in front of a camera still discussing medicare abstractly. “For too long Washington has not done anything...bla bla bla” They are just too afraid to call out barry and his stooges in congress.


248 posted on 05/25/2011 2:06:38 PM PDT by lodi90
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